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    Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/29/08)

    Less than a week ago, I posted a topic about Jay-Z and Beyonce getting married. Unfortunately, that didn't sit well with the majority of the Pavilionites here, as the majority of the posts inquired what "Hova" was. However, I think the comment that really took the cake for my topic came from veteran poster Ryner, who gave me a no-nonsense reply that many Pavilionites don't favor these urban topics.

    That's fine with me. Nobody can like everything. However, I believe I shouldn't have said "I don't care" in response to Ryner's statement. Instead, I want to retract that statement and say "Thank you" for being brutally honest with me. I never really considered it in the past, but now I am, and I'm more appreciative of your honesty. Now, I need to go on with the purpose of this topic.

    I post a lot of stuff relating to Urban culture (for instance, I made a topic about the movie "Pride," which spawned racially offensive responses). It has not deterred me from making others, and if the community doesn't respond, I don't consider it a failure, but even I appreciate the "views" the topic receives. Now then, the purpose of me making this topic is that I want to address some things happening in the urban culture that I want to get off my chest, and I figured I'd start with this first subject. I will try to incorporate other topics on a weekly basis, this I swear.

    The Subject: The Best and Worst Contemporary Rappers- 4/7/08

    Ah, this is going to be a field day, people! I know you've all heard the phrase, "Hip-hop is dead," and quite frankly, I'm starting to believe it with all of the one-hit wonders crashing in on the scene with watered down garbish: Shawty Lo, DJ UNK, Soulja Boy, etc. However, I don't even need to say they're garbage. All you need to do is listen to the music, which constantly plays on the cot damn radio. Now, amidst the garbage stands a few MC I respect for keeping hip-hop alive:

    Kanye West, Lupe Fiasco, Common Sense (now Common), Mos Def, KRS-One, Nas (Thanks Peachy)

    These rappers keep it real, and whatever sales they garnish is well-deserved. If you want to refute my statement, reply here. If you agree with me, reply here as well. Check back next week for a new subject.
    Last edited by Bon; 04-29-2008, 02:47 PM.

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    I actually came across Lupe Fiasco a few weeks ago and liked a lot of his songs, and this is coming from a person who hates rap so much he might get a brain tumor.

    But I can't ever agree with any kind words about Kanye cause he's such a little punk

    And my post in the other topic wasn't really that serious, but I'm glad it gave you a life-awakening.
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      MC Hammer was the best. I weep for his dead career.

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        But I can't ever agree with any kind words about Kanye cause he's such a little punk
        It's funny that you put it that way, because I think I like Kanye West for the same reasons that I like the Sex Pistols. I don't want a MC that's going to waste my time trying to boast how great his libido is or how much money he has. I want someone who makes outlandish claims. I want someone who says he's better than Jesus.
        Last edited by Cosmic Jeff; 04-07-2008, 05:05 PM.

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          Originally posted by Bonanza View Post
          Nobody can't like everything.
          I GUESS THIS IS THE URBAN TOPIC LOL

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            Originally posted by Cosmic Jeff View Post
            It's funny that you put it that way, because I think I like Kanye West for the same reasons that I like the Sex Pistols. I don't want a MC that's going to waste my time trying to boast how great his libido is or how much money he has. I want someone who makes outlandish claims. I want someone who says he's better than Jesus.
            I don't mean his music, I mean how he acts.
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              Originally posted by John Mora View Post
              I GUESS THIS IS THE URBAN TOPIC LOL

              I make one slip-up every now and then, and this mofo still busts my balls. Glad to see you give a damn about my text skills, Johnny.

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                you made a list of good rappers and didnt put nas in there?

                wut*
                420yolo!!!!!!111

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                  I think my favourite rappers or hip-hop artists include K'naan Warsame, Spank Rock, Buck 65, k-os, Ghostface Killah, and Cadence Weapon. I'm probably forgetting a few at the moment.

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                    Damn, I completely forgot Ghost. Thanks, Magik.

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                      Weezy F. Baby. Birdman jr. The fireman.

                      His new single is definitely a real departure from his style, but I don't mind him putting out a panty-dropper here and there.

                      Lil' Wayne is the greatest rapper in the game today. His lyrics are without peer.

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                        Hip hop is far from dead. You just have not done enough research to know what else is out there. Examples: Aesop Rock, Deltron, Prefuse 73, and Mr. Lif. Also check out Roots Manuva, aBritish rapper. If you want to go back a few years, check out Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy and Tricky's Maxinquaye and Pre-Millenium Tension albums (even though technically, that's "trip hop"). As for turntablist stuff (what you would probably call a DJ...even though now there's almost an entire genre built upon musicians who manipulate vinyl as their composition, with or without having an MC), I recommend Jurassic 5, DJ Shadow, DJ Spooky, The X-ecutioners, Invisibl Skratch Piklz, DJ Q-Bert, and Kid Koala (who voluntuntarily retired from active competition at the DMC World DJ Championships, because he kept winning every year...he typically uses 4 turntables simultaneously).

                        I think I gave you an almost identical list less than a year ago, Bonanza, and I can see how much good it did.

                        Anyway, don't be a sheep following the mainstream herd. Think outside of the box. Type "turntablism" into wikipedia, and learn a little history (especially seeing as how you'd said you had never heard Herbie Hancock's Rockit). As Del the Funky Homosapien says on the album Deltron 3030, "Upgrade your grey matter, 'cuz one day it may matter."

                        EDIT: Also type "underground hip hop" into wikipedia for more good information...using my PS3, so I can't provide direct links. Also, if you don't take my advice this time, Bonanza, and don't take the time to do a LITTLE research on anything I've said, and make another topic a year from now bemoaning the "death of hip hop," I'll give up on you as a lost cause. My MAIN focus in discovering good music is, take the time to do a bit of legwork and research. If your ONLY exposure to music is what the mainstream media shoves down your throat and tells you is good, then not only are you doing yourself a disservice, but you are in no way qualified to complain about how bad "most" music is nowadays. If your only exposure to music is what the mainstream offers you, you are living a sheltered musical life. Engage your brain, do some research, and expand your horizons by taking your damn blinders off. It's worth it in the end.
                        Last edited by Perversion; 04-08-2008, 01:50 AM.

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                          I'm particularly fond of Japanese Hip-Hop producer Nujabes.

                          I also like old school hip-hop and early 90's gangsta rap.

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                            Originally posted by Magik View Post
                            I think my favourite rappers or hip-hop artists include K'naan Warsame, Spank Rock, Buck 65, k-os, Ghostface Killah, and Cadence Weapon. I'm probably forgetting a few at the moment.
                            yeeeeees Buck 65. He's from where I live. Nice guy. He used to live in the trailer park by my house and I've smoked with him a few times.

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                              I <3 Kanye, Jay-Z, Lupe, Common, Wu-Tang, MF Doom, and whatever else is super fly and funky fresh.

                              To be completely honest, I think todays rap is leagues better than most anything in any of the rock genres. Aside from Queens of the Stoneage, Radiohead, and some White Stripes, I'd go as far to say that Rock is dead.

                              I support your topic Bonanza.
                              Last edited by Biggie; 04-08-2008, 08:32 AM.

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