Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/29/08)

[Ms. Porkchop]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/13/08)

Ebonics just makes me think the person using them are uneducated. And NO its not a race thing, black or white, ebonics suck.

[Toaster]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/13/08)

I don't think that it's an acceptable way for someone to talk. It's called poor grammar, and labelling it as 'ebonics' is just a poor excuse for the blacks to get around it.

[Kefka Jr.]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/13/08)

I've personally experienced this informal language when I was working at the Pizza place. My boss could not understand a word coming from the customer's mouth, so he asked me to give it a shot. I'm not the master of ebonics, and I also try to keep it scarce amongst my peers, but I miraculously succeeded in getting the customer's order.

Heh heh heh...

Airplane.

[Kire]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/13/08)

That wasn't Ebonics, that was Jive! TOTALLY different. Cut me some slack, jack!

[Shard]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/13/08)

Language is a fluid thing, and invention tends to come from the bottom up, not the top down, so ebonics...which sounds like a loaded term frankly, doesn't bother me much except when those using it don't have an alternative way too communicate. It's a marker of your stratum within a society, and it can help or hinder depending on your mastery of it.

[Bon]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/13/08)

I can't believe none of you chuckled at the last bit of my ebonics piece.

I'm really enjoying the responses on this piece, and I am willing to take ideas for next week's subject.

[Bon]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/21/08)

Well, it's another week, and I have thought of a really nice subject for discussion this week.

Black Voice Actors

That's right, you heard what I said. If you've seen an animated series on any of the local channels during your childhood or present life, you may not have noticed (or cared) that a Black man may be behind some of those memorable characters. I think I'll name a few, just to get this chat going.



Who: James Avery
Memorable Shows: Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Amen.

Why: James Avery a.k.a. Uncle Phil voiced Shredder in the 80's classic cartoon show, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! With his infamous one-liners and unique voice, Avery kept us entertained with this character until 1994, and I haven't really seen him in much TV lately. Still...Shredder? I nearly wet my pants.



Who: Phil Lamarr
Memorable Shows: Mad TV, Pulp Fiction (movie)

Why: Phil Lamar, during and after Mad TV, made quite a resume for himself..trust me. He's voice acted in Static Shock as the lead character, Justice League, Samurai Jack, Afro Samurai, and many other animated shows. I can recognize his voice right off the back sometimes, but I think all of his characters bring off a distinct personality.



Who: Regina King
Memorable Shows/Movies: Friday, Down to Earth, The Boondocks

Why: The Boondocks...and she voiced Huey and Riley Freeman. She's made a fan out of Bonanza, all right. I never believed she could fit into a cartoon role, but damn, did she prove me wrong. I mean, I've seen her earlier work, and I really think she's trying to distance herself from that. I hear many consider her a B-actress. Well, she gets an A in voicework from Bonanza.

Let the discussion commence.

[Perversion]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/21/08)

I have nothing to say on the current topic (black voice actors), but if you want to see a really, really painful/humiliating scene involving ebonics and something else which I will not spoil here, see the film In The Company of Men. I honestly cannot recommend this film enough, for a myriad of reasons. It's just the first thing I thought of when I read the short discussion of ebonics.

[Biggie]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/21/08)

I can't think of much to contribute.

I guess my favorite black voice actor is Jaleel White.



He voiced Sonic the Hedgehog.

And I agree with Gloom, why does urban equal black? I'm a fly young urban youth, and am not black.

[Riotsword]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/21/08)

Who: James Avery
Memorable Shows: Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Amen.

Why: James Avery a.k.a. Uncle Phil voiced Shredder in the 80's classic cartoon show, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! With his infamous one-liners and unique voice, Avery kept us entertained with this character until 1994, and I haven't really seen him in much TV lately. Still...Shredder? I nearly wet my pants.

I think I nearly wet mine too.

And Phil LaMarr was also the voice of the sky pirate Reddas in Final Fantasy XII. He did a pretty good job, IMO.

[Caciss]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/21/08)

Phil LaMarr is pretty sweet.

[Bon]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/21/08)

Thanks for the responses, guys.

Perv and others, you make a very good point on the "Urban=Black" argument. How about we make this a dual-subject week? Let the discussion resume.

[Toaster]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/21/08)

Urban "trend" : Black :: Emo "trend" : Whites



It's not mutually exclusive, it's just kind of how it goes.

[highwind]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/21/08)

Phil LaMarr is a really talented guy and I can recognize his voice as well.

[Bon]

Re: Bonanza Presents: The Urban Topic (4/29/08)

This will be the last subject of Bonanza's Urban Topic, as I feel that this little project of mine has served its purpose.

This week's subject: Urban Life

Tell me about yours. I'll post when I recouperate my energy.