Rep System

[Shard]

Is there a way to opt out of this entirely? I'd rather people's impression of me be reflected by what I say over someone who chooses to artificially (and anonymously) inflate/deflate my reputation. This make-shift popularity poll only serves to limit minority opinions regardless of their quality.

I don't mind feedback, but damn, taking random abuse from people whose opinions are weighted as much as anyone who might have a thoughtful response is just irritating.

Just a suggestion, Shard

[Valkysas]

I'll talk to mora about this later, okay?

[hitogoroshi]

I think that much less negative rep would be given if it always gave the name of the sender. I personally think you if disagree with someone, you'll want your name shown anyway, and if you're just being an arse, then too **** bad.

[Rodak]

Is there a way to opt out of this entirely?
Do it the way I did.

Just ignore it.

While I have seen some of the comments people have left me, I never liked the idea of a reputation system and just pretend it is not there.

In fact, I have left every single comment I wanted people to see in the appropriate thread. I have never given positive or negative reputation to anyone and have no plans of so doing!

I like the idea of opting out. Especially if it does something to the icon, maybe remove the Goblis and Deaths from those people's posts.

So that's two in favor of opting out as an option and one who thinks the system needs reform.

I think we're on to something here...

Peace.

[Manyak]

I really don't take the rep system seriously enough to get upset over it.

It's basically designed for you to see how liked you are, and if I get negative rep, I guess it means somebody dosen't like me.

No big deal.

It still bothers me when people give anybody anonymous negative rep though, it only reinforces the fact that they're giving it for such a stupid reason that they don't even want to associate themselves with it.

[John Mora]

If we were to do this, the people that opted out would have to know that they could still be punished for posting like a dope.

[Shard]

I'm cool with that. I'm not asking to have a free hand and no repercussions. I just don't like the idea of someone formulating an opinion on me, instead of what I've said. I'll always welcome feedback whether positive or negative, if it's something that's been thought out. The anonymous "you suck"s without reason behind them, I can live without.

[Rodak]

If we were to do this, the people that opted out would have to know that they could still be punished for posting like a dope.
At the risk of posting like a dope...

Sites without reputation systems seem to do this by having effective moderators.

I am not saying the moderators here are ineffective, I am saying that the average user is not qualified to perform such a moderatorly duty.

And I am fine just continuing to ignore the system.

But does not the fact that I ignore it render any "punishment for dopish posts" made through that system absolutely worthless anyhow?

That's my Buck o' Five worth anyhow.

Peace.

[John Mora]

The rep system only really starts punishing you when you've gone pretty far into the negatives. The rep system is basically here just for fun. Most of the people that would end up getting so low a rep are dealt with by us admins anyways. I just didn't want a bunch of people opting out of the system and thinking that they could start ignoring message board etiquette, is all.

[Draygone]

I got negative rep because I said I hadn't read any of the Harry Potter books. That doesn't bother me. In fact, it gave me a chuckle. Although, it was also signed, but even if it weren't, I wouldn't have been bothered.

I'm not against the idea of it being optional, though it certainly makes things more difficult to tell someone anonymously what they think. Without the rep system, they're either forced to make a post that everyone sees, or a PM that you will know who sent it. I myself will continue to keep it.

[Ryner]

What the bosses should do is watch the way a person gives rep. If they feel he's using the system in a way they dont like, they should give that person a warning to straighten up and fly right or lose his ability to give rep. Then two weeks later they should just go ahead and take away his rep privileges anyway. That'll teach 'em!

[John Mora]

If only there was a man with a vision so singular, so spectacular to do such a thing. Ah, well.

[Marc M.]

I nominate Ryner for Rep-Baron.

[Chuck]

I like the rep system. I mostly just use it when someone says something particularly funny or thoughtful instead of adding a whole post that's just


:lol


The rep system lets me make those comments just to that person and makes it easy to know exactly which post I'm referring to. I almost always sign mine and can't remember the last time I gave a negative rep.

[BlueSenshi]

The rep system seems fine to me. I don't post often (more now than during the school year), and, like PandaMoe said, sometimes all I have to say is "that was funny" and it doesn't need an entire post. Also, someone else has usually left the :lol before me anyhow. No topic needs a bunch of posts with just that in them. It'd get in the way of actual content.

[Biggie]

Here is one funny bad rep I got, I think it may be from one of the new members too.

STFU NOOB t(._.t)

[Shard]

I got a negative comment for this topic that reads: You mean like this?

Classy, dude. And way to make my point for me. To those of you who like the rep system now, I'm not suggesting we remove it or alter the way it currently operates. I'm just suggesting the option for those of us who don't like it, to not particpate.

I don't want this to become a "revamp the whole system" thread, if that's your idea, own it, but it's not mine. If allowing the option to not participate is too much of a pain to implement, I won't cry about that either.

[Tsunami]

I've never had a problem with this rep system.

[Manyak]

If there is one argument for the rep system that you listen to this year, make it this one, the greatest rep ever left.

I like Darren, he is my friend! I like you AND him. He likes me, and I like him!!! He likes you, I HOOOOPE! I LIKE HIS AUTOGRAPH, IT IS A NICE PICTURE! HE IS NIIIIICCEE!!!

I don't think I even need to say who left it.

[HolyPhoenix]

I like it. I love watching people's comments in them.

One person told me "I look better with bad." That was not quite it but close enough. Sorry if you are the person who gave it to me. I can't remember it exactly because it is gone under the invisible line of forgotten rep (as I call it).

[Nixon]

If there is one argument for the rep system that you listen to this year, make it this one, the greatest rep ever left.


Quote:
I like Darren, he is my friend! I like you AND him. He likes me, and I like him!!! He likes you, I HOOOOPE! I LIKE HIS AUTOGRAPH, IT IS A NICE PICTURE! HE IS NIIIIICCEE!!!



I don't think I even need to say who left it.

:lol

And that's why I love the rep system.

[Rodak]

I support opting out mostly as a signal that I do not use the system and there will be no reciprocity should you add or subtract from my "status" here.

It's nothing against those who use it and like it, it's just that I prefer to just say these things in the place that inspired them.

Those here who have had RPGM2 questions (and a few with RPGM3 problems) know my reputation. That is the reputation about which I care, not the one determined mostly by free forum comments made off hand which were not even thought out (unlike answering peoples questions when they need help).

And (here it comes...) to all those who say that they like being able to say things anonymously... Grow Up.

If you are unwilling to at least sign your username to such BS, then you have no good reason to say it. I know Shard did not mean to turn this into a "revamp the rep system" thread, but if opting out is not feasible (I wrote this in notepad at work before reading that it was not clear how, or if, the system can allow individual opt-outs) or desired by the administration then at least consider discontinuing the anonymity of it.

That would make people accountable for what they say (Hey... Isn't that what John Mora said about the purpose of the rep system earlier?) (and isn't that ironic?) (I like paranthesis)!

Yet another Buck O'Five worth. That's two bucks O' Ten now.

Peace.

[John Mora]

That would make people accountable for what they say (Hey... Isn't that what John Mora said about the purpose of the rep system earlier?)
I meant it from the other way around.

[Rodak]

I meant it from the other way around.

I know.

Thats why I followed it with

(and isn't that ironic?)

It is ironic that it works both ways.

Peace.

[Draygone]

If you are unwilling to at least sign your username to such BS, then you have no good reason to say it.Yeah, but what if you wanted to choose sides that the majority seems to not accept, yet you don't want that person to know you're on his side or else he'll annoy you with "I like you, you're my friend" posts and PMs...

Anyway, I usually don't recieve bad rep from people. So far of my 10 currently listed rep, half of them are from helping people, one is because of a joke I made (...which I myself didn't really mean to be that funny), another gave me rep just because I had a lot of posts, and of course there's that time Valk was giving everyone rep just for posting in that topic. There are two negatives so far, and they're absolutely no big deal to me.

I'm not sure anybody really pays much attention to the Goblis anyway. One might go over the icon to see what sort of message it's holding, but that's because they're fun to see. The only times one really pays attention to rep is when they have the "Bad Gobli", and in most cases that person deserves to be in the negatives.

[Valkysas]

the rep system IS just for fun. its not to be taken seriously.

[hitogoroshi]

I still think no one would complain if all the idiots automatically had their names signed. I have never had neg rep signed, unless I'm being forgetful. Whenever someone doesn't sign postive rep, they always still make it obivious who sent it.
I know the rep system is for fun, but it really puts me down, at least, when I get neg rep for stupid reasons. :(

[Valkysas]

I've gotten at least one negative point from the same person for every update I've ever made at the pavilion. I delete every one of them.

:minotaur

if you get harassing rep comments, or points you dont feel you deserve, let an admin know. we can see who sent every single one of them.

[Ryner]

Shard, if you dont like the Rep system, dont participate. You're not being forced to pay attention to it, you know.

[HolyPhoenix]

Valk, can you tell who gives you rep even if they don't leave there name, by some administrative power? I have always pondered this question.

[jvrlopez]

Yes, Valk can tell who leaves what, regardless of thier name being present in the comment or not.

VALK SEES EVERYTHING.

Like Santa Claus....he knows when you're naughty or nice :p

[RPGD]

I can, too. We are the Pavilion's Quarter Knights.

:minotaur

[Rodak]

I often state points on principal more than because of any passionate feelings about the issue.

Draygone is right.

Nobody should be bugged by anonymous positive comments, but I still feel that anonymous Negatives should be forbidden. Just on principle.

I did not mean saying something nice when I said that bit about refusing to sign your name to BS. Niceness is not BS.

Negativity for it's own sake (like negative reputation comments without words) is the lowest form of cowardly attack. It should be addressed.

See, I can compromise!

Peace.

[Chuck]

I can, too. We are the Pavilion's Quarter Knights.
Oh Knights of Ni you are just and fair and we shall return with a shrubbery.

Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni!

[Red Dragon]

I'm curious about something... The reaper is a show of negative Reputation Points right? I think the reaper looks alot nicer than the Gobis... Does that mean i have to act like a jerk in order to get the Reaper Rep point avater? :)

[Valkysas]

yes. it does.