De-levelling question

[Cysma]

I have a character that begins at level 40 when he first joins the party, but a story event drops his level down to 10. When I did this I found out that he didn't lose any of the skills that he isn't supposed to have learned by level 10, so I made him forget all of them in the event code. When he reaches the required levels again, will he learn them back?

[Wavelength]

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I'll check this myself this weekend unless someone can say conclusively that I'm right or wrong, but I thought I remembered noticing that there was no way to cause your characters to lose Experience or Levels in RPGM3!

Can you please specify which event command(s) you are using to make this happen, so I can test if necessary and let you know whether the character will learn the skills back?

[ErikaFuzzbottom]

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What you could always do is set up an event or some easy battles that raises his levels rapidly.

[Wavelength]

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What you could always do is set up an event or some easy battles that raises his levels rapidly.

S/He already has a way to gain experience quickly (probably the Gain Experience command), I assume, but the problem is that I'm not sure if there's a way to LOSE experience (which is required when the character starts at level 40, loses their spellbooks, and then is demoted to level 10), and if there is, the question at hand is whether the spells/skills will be re-learned as the character hits levels between 10 and 40 after they had the skills forcibly removed when the character was demoted to 10 (I assume they would be re-learned, but it's a really good question).

[Cysma]

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Under the Party Control event code, there are three commands called "Modify Level", "Increase Level", and "Decrease Level". A little checking wouldn't hurt.

[ErikaFuzzbottom]

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S/He already has a way to gain experience quickly (probably the Gain Experience command), I assume, but the problem is that I'm not sure if there's a way to LOSE experience (which is required when the character starts at level 40, loses their spellbooks, and then is demoted to level 10), and if there is, the question at hand is whether the spells/skills will be re-learned as the character hits levels between 10 and 40 after they had the skills forcibly removed when the character was demoted to 10 (I assume they would be re-learned, but it's a really good question).

Yeah, that's why I was recommending testing by leveling back up in a hurry.

[MagusMartovich]

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I was thinking of doing something along these lines in a game a while back and had the same problem.

Instead of play testing I just copied the character and swapped out my high level character for an identical one at a lower level.

It saves a lot of programming agrivation, you know, work smart, not hard.

[Wavelength]

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Under the Party Control event code, there are three commands called "Modify Level", "Increase Level", and "Decrease Level". A little checking wouldn't hurt.

Oh, my sincerest apologies, sir. My boss sometimes has an issue with me taking my PS2 to work and checking Event Commands for someone on an RPG Maker board when I'm supposed to be helping a client check for software issues. I know this doesn't justify my absolutely flagrant lapse in memory, because as a board veteran I really should have every single event command committed to memory, but I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive this error.

Sarcasm aside, I tested this for you, and the good news is that unless gaining levels through events works differently than gaining it through battles (extremely unlikely because they both affect your character's EXP), your character WILL gain the skills back when they reach the appropriate level, even without a "Learn Skills" event command.

I tested it multiple times (I used all Spells, didn't try with Physical Skills), even got into one or two battles to see if it "reset" any of the skills to On or Off, and while I can't say I tested the hell out of things, it looks like you're good to go with your idea. Have the character forget the spells using the Event Command when you lower his level to 10 and you don't need to do anything special when he hits 40 or any other level.

I'm actually a little surprised I was able to reproduce this behavior; I had a feeling the fact that the skills weren't automatically forgotten when the character is nerfed to Level 10 was because you might have had the "Skill Known at Game Start" box checked for those skills on your Wizard... but apparently that doesn't affect this. (You likely already know this, Cysma, but I figured it was worth posting because it's useful information to anyone who's trying something similar.)

Oh, and sorry if I came across as an ass in that first paragraph, Cysma. I got irritated because it sounded to me (and still does) like you were berating me for not "doing my work" just because I missed the Gain/Lose Level commands, after I expressed a willingness to spend my own time to help you (and wasn't at my PS2 at that point to immediately check even if I wanted to).

[Dallas Alvis II]

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[Ryner]

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A little checking wouldn't hurt.

It's ironic you said that to someone willing to help you answer a question you could easily answer yourself by doing a little checking.

[Dallas Alvis II]

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I didn't want to say it.