Police raid using SWAT invade a home for drugs, kills pets, and only finds a pipe

[IamPinhead]

Re: Police raid using SWAT invade a home for drugs, kills pets, and only finds a pipe

If you had ever taken a course on statistics, you should understand the significance of these random encounters with random officers, with the majority of these encounters leading to unjustified outcomes. Granted, the sample size was small, but having 4 of 5 encounters with police being the nature of what they were told me a lot of information about what I could expect from them.

I don't need to have taken a course on statistics to tell you that such a miniscule sample size can't tell you jack about an entire state's police force. I'm sure that in every state if you picked five police officers, or five random outcomes you'll come up with assholes. It's because every group has a small selection of assholes. It also means that you can't make such an enormous judgment based on such a small sample.

[The Toecutter]

Re: Police raid using SWAT invade a home for drugs, kills pets, and only finds a pipe

I don't need to have taken a course on statistics to tell you that such a miniscule sample size can't tell you jack about an entire state's police force. I'm sure that in every state if you picked five police officers, or five random outcomes you'll come up with assholes. It's because every group has a small selection of assholes. It also means that you can't make such an enormous judgment based on such a small sample.

You're missing the point. If the assholes are garanteed to be a small minority, it stands to reason that the likilihood of encountering them each more than 3 weeks apart and having 4 of 5 be corrupt in some manner and acting unlawfully towards me should approach zero. So either I am very unlucky, or something else is going on. I had cocaine planted in my car; do you have any idea the penalties that could have been incurred on me had it been discovered? Had those officers later decided not just to look for it in my back seat, but also swab test it, do you not understand the ramifications? You can vacuum your car all you want, and there will always be traces of it, which caries with it a felony charge, just for residue(could even be in a used car before someone buys it). Giving authorities the potential to have that degree of control over someone's life is repulsive.

I don't intend to have 20 more encounters with Texas police to increase the sample size, given my previous experiences. I don't want to either wind up dead, in prison, hundreds or thousands of dollars poorer, or maybe having to shoot one of them to save my own life when I did nothing wrong to begin with.

And the judgement I am making isn't on every individual officer(in fact I did state my opinion earlier that a minority were corrupt); it is on the organization. The organization can still be corrupt even if only a minority are corrupt, so long as it covers for and aids that minority; with regard to Texas and other states in the U.S., there is an abundance of evidence that demonstrates police organizations doing just that, whether it is at the city, county, or state level.

When that "one OH ****" kills that "100 attaboys", said organizations are faced with the prospect of re-organizing their priorities, but if those who lead the organization find that to be an unfavorable outcome, they'd rather just cover for the crooks and even commit crimes themselves.

[The Toecutter]

Re: Police raid using SWAT invade a home for drugs, kills pets, and only finds a pipe

Another such 'isolated incident' and another still:


In the video linked below, an old lady describes how police knocked on her door, and asked to search her home. They were looking for her son,who hadn't lived there for 12 years. She had a dog, and asked the police if she could lock it in the bathroom or in the backyard; the policeman told her to put it in the bathroom. Later, one of the officers opened the bathroom door and shot the dog. The police allegedly then found a fortune cookie wrapper and attempted to claim that it was a baggie with drug residue.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video...jf0A654n83mi8j

Another such incident involves a 21 year old man who was shot in his bathroom by officers during another botched drug raid; all the witnesses claimed the officers shot him unprovoked and that there were no drugs at all, while the police are claiming an unspecified amount of drugs were found. The policeman who shot him has a record with a total of 3 such questionable shootings.

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/...id_trevon_cole

[Red Dragon]

Re: Police raid using SWAT invade a home for drugs, kills pets, and only finds a pipe

Don't do drugs kids.

Or the police will shoot your pets and rape your families.

MWAHAHAHA

[Jamos]

Re: Police raid using SWAT invade a home for drugs, kills pets, and only finds a pipe

The story of Red Dragon's life.

[Red Dragon]

Re: Police raid using SWAT invade a home for drugs, kills pets, and only finds a pipe

[IamPinhead]

Re: Police raid using SWAT invade a home for drugs, kills pets, and only finds a pipe

Assholes, lots of 'em. They live in America. And other places.

[The Toecutter]

Re: Police raid using SWAT invade a home for drugs, kills pets, and only finds a pipe

A murderer is quite distinguished from the garden variety asshole when it comes to the lack of regard for the rights and well-being of another... so much so that society usually imposes consequences for such behavior. It is most unfortunate that these standards aren't applied to a person just because they have a shiny badge and/or an inordinate sum of money available for use(whether their own or a taxpayer's).

[IamPinhead]

Re: Police raid using SWAT invade a home for drugs, kills pets, and only finds a pipe

A murderer is quite distinguished from the garden variety asshole when it comes to the lack of regard for the rights and well-being of another... so much so that society usually imposes consequences for such behavior. It is most unfortunate that these standards aren't applied to a person just because they have a shiny badge and/or an inordinate sum of money available for use(whether their own or a taxpayer's).

It isn't just because their badge is shiny. It's a representation of status in a society. When people see a cop (depending on how much they hate authority) they think of somebody who holds themselves to a higher moral standard. These are people that took the job (presumably) for the betterment of their society and to take down criminals. We're more willing to think of these actions as justified because we believe these people to be good and not murderers. I know you hate establishment in all its forms, but you know I'm right. My point was that there are bad people in the United States, just like everywhere else in the world. That doesn't mean in any way that every single person in the United States is a bad person, nor that everybody who has a job governing it is bad. If you take a few isolated cases and blow them up, then of course the collective will look the same. These two cases to which you linked are terrible, but that doesn't mean that we should be storming the police station and burning it down for its murderous habits.

A person who has a **** ton of cash is just capable of bribing people more. And they most likely have an enormous legal shotgun behind them while the average schmuck does not.