Reverse Pickpocketing

[Catharsis]

Re: Reverse Pickpocketing

what he said was interesting to me.

i just hate how you cant walk up to the order call box and get something. maybe us non motorists would like to order something late at night.

Yeah I live next door to a Jack in the box and a KFC and they close at 10 PM. The manager lets me order at the window but if anyone else they tell me to leave.

[peachy]

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The world does not operate solely in the blacks and whites that the OP requires us to answer his question: Reverse pickpocketing surely represents what could be a good thing, something noble and philanthropic, but it could also mean something corrupt and maligned.

Consider pickpocketing. Taking an object from someone else's person without them knowing it, usually from their pocket. A lot of times, this object turns out to be money, or in some manner this action happens to be motivated for a monetary purpose. Pickpocketing is the same as stealing. Stealing is wrong.

You would think when you take something that is wrong and reverse it, that it would turn into something the opposite of wrong. The opposite of wrong is right, right?

Is this the sort of "logical" conclusion that the OP wants us to find? Why create a topic for something so inane and pointless as far as to trying to separate words by moral morpheme and make a quick judgment? Surely this can't be the entirety of the situation.

If not that, then what? Looking towards the second part of the OP, he states "Should this crime be punished?" Hold on a second, if pickpocketing is stealing, then shouldn't reverse stealing be something like giving someone something but stealthily?

The ambiguity of the question leads us to ask further- is reverse pickpocketing a crime that is being punished and is the OP asking us in outrage whether or not it should be considered thus; or is reverse pickpocketing not considered a crime and the OP wants to challenge that it is. In searching for the legality of this term I found no help for my cause- I could not find reverse pickpocketing governed by any law, nor could I find even a solid definition of what it was.

Whoa, whoa, we must question. How can we define the term reverse pickpocketing in one paragraph and then turn around and undefine it in another? Magic.

The term reverse pickpocketing was coined by sleight of hand master David Copperfield- in getting robbed he stole cell phones and wallets so he could help the police catch his assailants. He quipped to the camera, "Call it reverse pickpocketing!"

In going with this thread, then apparently the police that Mr. Copperfield dealt with set the precedent that no, reverse pickpocketing is not illegal. This is still arguable. Certainly celebrities get a little leeway when it comes to the law, and I'm sure David Copperfield is no exception, especially since he is a magician and magicians are scary as ****.

When does committing a crime become legal? At what point do we draw the line? Are we allowed to meet our adversary with equal force, ie steal from would-be thieves to prevent robberies, murder murderers, and so on and so forth? Should we be? Can any a man at any point ever consider himself above the law so much that he may break it to uphold it?

This spirals us into an entirely new direction. Is the world really defined enough for us morally to be able to make judgments in this situation?

Man himself is not able to comprehend fully the scope of morality. In fact, morality is totally outside of the mind of man that man has a need to place morality into the hands of beings greater than himself. Religions usually have a place in defining morality. Legal court systems, in order to take morality from human hands, elevate its doers of justice to statuses where they become more than men, to the point where they are no longer the individuals that they are outside of the job that they do.

To answer the OP: This topic sucks.

[Catharsis]

I more so meant it as a metaphor for when we punish someone for doing something kind to others, perhaps because of the way they go about doing it, but I'm happy to see the topic has stirred your mind so much and I didn't even know about the Copperfield stuff.

[JPS]

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Metaphorically speaking no you should not be punished for doing a good deed, but you didnt clarify that in your original post so I thought you were just bored and wanted to post a topic for the sake of upping your post count.

[Catharsis]

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I thought the topic would be funny, and the irony delicious, which to me it has been. No I didn't phrase it that way, I wanted to get the minds going.

Well it could've been funnier. I thought for sure someone would post something about how touching their back pocket to put money inside makes them feel like a sexually harassed stripper.

[Big Rick Cook]

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I think the first definition of Reverse Pickpocketing has in it a grave potential. I don't want a serial killer inserting evidence in my jacket or jeans pockets to frame me for the murder of someone or many someones.

But if magicians/comedians want to do all kinds of wacky things that make us go WTF, then I'm all for that. Candid hilarity is often the best kind.

And as per the second definition in this thread, who gives a ****.

[John Mora]

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what he said was interesting to me.

i just hate how you cant walk up to the order call box and get something. maybe us non motorists would like to order something late at night.

No, get a car.

[Big Rick Cook]

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It's a safety issue for people on foot. I've actually watched a guy get hit by a car because he was standing in the drive-thru lane waiting on his order, and if he'd been hurt at all, or even thought about it, he could have sued the pants off the establishment and the company since it's not allowed. And the driver of the car was pretty sauced, too. It was all-around a bad situation.

[Karr Lord of Chaos]

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It's a safety issue for people on foot. I've actually watched a guy get hit by a car because he was standing in the drive-thru lane waiting on his order, and if he'd been hurt at all, or even thought about it, he could have sued the pants off the establishment and the company since it's not allowed. And the driver of the car was pretty sauced, too. It was all-around a bad situation.

thats not the stores fault, its the stupid prick driving the car. there needs to be a solution for people who are on foot, maybe not the drive-through, but some other way to get food when the dining area closes.

[Owl of Parliament]

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Only really drunk people and Karr walk the streets lost at 3am starving for a bite to eat, looking for wild edibles, scrounging through dumpsters and ultimately decide to walk up to the drive-through window for nourishment.

[Tintenfisch]

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You could always eat the food that you bought from a market so you don't have to go for take out.

[Big Rick Cook]

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Because at 3 a.m. it's not safe to be out by yourself on foot. Unless you live in a land of popsicles and candy.

Which you obviously don't since you're trying to get fast food at 3 a.m.

[Karr Lord of Chaos]

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*kicks work in the balls* stupid work, letting me off really late at night.

[Perversion]

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Having worked overnight at my current job plenty of times in the past, and on a few occasions, not being able to secure a ride across the parking lot to the McDonald's, I HAVE walked through the McDonald's drive-thru at 3 in the morning before, a few times in fact. They DID serve me, actually. I just had to tap the glass to get their attention, as I guess the big ordering board was not able to detect me (it has something to do with weight, I'm guessing).


And the scenario you gave above, Owl, is not so far from what I've done at a very low point in my life before, albeit at about 1 in the afternoon. Never went dumpster diving, but I DID randomly walk around the Burger King parking lot looking for change people had dropped so I could buy a $.99 cheeseburger. I guess the guy working felt sorry for me, because he gave me one for free.

[Catharsis]

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Only really drunk people and Karr walk the streets lost at 3am starving for a bite to eat, looking for wild edibles, scrounging through dumpsters and ultimately decide to walk up to the drive-through window for nourishment.

Thats right there are exceptions, but it doesn't change the fact this comment is very funny.

Thats coming from a guy who lives next door to a KFC and Jack in the Box. Each time you start your car you burn gas and contribute to its wear, so why should I have to take the car if I want something late at night and its in walking distance? I could use the exercise anyway.

Laws are freakin stupid if you ask me. If you run someone over you are responislbe, blaming it on the restaurant is rediculous. Unless they are proven to be someone whose trying to be runover to sue you or something. I'm a very guilt ridden person. If I run someone over its my fault, period and I will tare myself up over it.

Its stupid for a guy to sue you because he walks on the sidewalk outside your house and trips over a bottle someone threw there passing by. I hate doctors and I hate lawyers. If I could I would put them in a ship to an abandoned island and laugh maliciously while they ate each other to survive. Okay I'm a little drunk right now, so excuse the awesomeness of what I'm saying here.