I certainly wouldn't want to be this guy...

[Seraph]

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I do not have kids, therefore I cannot completely understand what you do. However, a parent's love for their child is never an excuse to do what the man did. I'm sure if I had kids I would love them very much, and if someone hurt them I would want to hurt them as well. But that is wrong, no matter how much it feels right.

This isn't about Logic, it's about what is right. Vengence is not right, disagree if you must but it is because of vengence thatt petty disputes turn into wars and so many people suffer for no reason at all. if it were not for vengence the world would be a infinitely better place. I think people need to learn to curb their urges for vengence if we ever want to make the world a better place.

but thank god logic comes into play with the law. temporary insanity can only go so far. above and beyond all you must be accountable for your actions. having your kids hurt does not justify you in dealing the same or greater damage to the culperate. i would be angry and may of done something like the father but less violent, but even still id expect retribution from the law for it.

having kids does not justify you leaving your sanity to commit the same crime. the law is in place so it may punish equally and fairly all those who break it. every criminal deserves due process, even if you personally believe otherwise.

what if this case was a mistake? would you want this happening to you just because someone else felt you where guilty? the law must decide if you are guilty of the crime, its their judgment, the judgment of your peers that must stand. i guess its a way of removing bias judgment from the involved parties.

I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. But I still think he still did the right thing.

So who gets to violate the father now?

Touche. ^Same response.

[Karr Lord of Chaos]

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debate is health, it encourages growth. i think most of us are mature enough to realize we wont be able to influence the outcome of this case. however we all want our opinions to be heard, and some apply more force to them then others.

personally, i like seeing what other people think when it comes to important topics such as law, political, religion. i have often been reminded of a stance i never considered when in a debate of opinions which greatly differ from one another.

but anyway, who knows, maybe the dad could be innocent. i could not be sure unless there was evidence (and there would most likely be irrefutable evidence due to the brutality of the alleged crime).

[DarkwingChuck]

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I don't think some of you realize how lax the punishment for what the father did would be regardless of the situation. Like I mentioned this same thing happens a lot without any provocation and usually at worst the sentence is a few years. I don't even think the law qualifies it as a sex crime, just a violent assault, perhaps you can get deadly weapon attached. So even though I agree he didn't do the right thing in these circumstances he'd get a very light punishment.

[The_Real_Crunk]

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If the kid really was trying to rape her and they werent just messing aorund, lock him up. Then just give the dad a warning. IM HARSH BUT FAIR. Doesnt matter who you are, If I ever come across you sexualy assualting somebody your gonna get my boot and fists, and anything else I deem worthy slammed against your body as hard as I can.

[H2SO4]

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I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. But I still think he still did the right thing.

So your saying that people should be punished for doing the right thing sometimes?

[Seraph]

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So your saying that people should be punished for doing the right thing sometimes?

As retarded as this sounds, yes (based on circumstances). If someone hurt my kids I would want to make them suffer. Period.

Our opinions differ. I am offering no further discussion.

[Jamos]

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That teen should be grateful. If I were the dad, the only thing keeping him alive would be the word "son" attached to the "step." But I sure would step all over that ****er with cleats!

[Sezjeuric]

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I'm always one to put myself in another's shoes.


Let's say I was that girl........ but at the age I am now... able to defend myself.

If I was ever raped and had the chance to get back at my attacker, I would claw his dick off with my bare hands.

Now, I am not a mother, so I don't have that unselfish instinct to put that little being ahead of myself (yet), but if I am willing to do that for myself,... well, who knows.


This is a theory I wish to NEVER test!

[Duel]

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I actually find this news story funny.

A guy raping a guy with a tool to avenge his daughter.

It's ridiculous!

OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WOULDN'T STAND FOR IT




(first time I used that)

[peachy]

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so youre saying that you'd have sex with an 8 year old as long as you didnt have a tire iron shoved up your bum?

The kid got exactly what he deserved, whether it was vigilantism or not, the father did the right thing.

im saying that what the father did was entirely out of line. not only is he taking justice into his own hands, he is doing it in a twisted and demented way that, although you might think, doesnt fit the crime.

the reason we have a justice system is so stuff like this doesnt happen, and if we let it go unpunished then we become more and more like the barbaric cultures that kill women for having sex outside of marriage, or who cut off hands for petty crimes.

i could understand being a little more understanding towards the father, and wanting to the law to be more lenient if he had beat up the son out of rage. but this has to be pretty much planned, because he had the cool to pick up the kid and then drive him to an empty place where nobody would be able to help him and then proceeded to enact a sick revenge that should be far out of place in todays society. this is precisely the sort of barbarian that we want to protect our society against, and as such instead of saying he should be let off easy, i disagree and say that this man should be put away for a very long time.

[Jamos]

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this is precisely the sort of barbarian that we want to protect our society against, and as such instead of saying he should be let off easy, i disagree and say that this man should be put away for a very long time.

I completely agree with this sentence. Of course, that is after I replaced all of the words father with step-son.

[Armored]

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You guys are acting like sodomy is a BAD thing!








You know she liked it.

[Red Dragon]

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You guys are acting like sodomy is a BAD thing!
You know she liked it.

[Snarf]

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All I can say is if I walked in on someone doing that to my child... really bad things would happen and the fear of prison wouldn't be an issue.

[JPS]

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All I can say is if I walked in on someone doing that to my child... really bad things would happen and the fear of prison wouldn't be an issue.

Right on

The kid wouldn't have had a chance to go to jail.