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    These people annoy me with the "War" subject.

    To warn you, this isn't exactly a "cheerful" topic for you boys and girls, so don't complain if you find this depressing or whatever because I warned you...

    Anyway, around here (where I live, not so much the pavilion), I've had quite a few encounters with people --either younger or just really ignorant people, mostly-- that want to talk about War and what I should have done to make it better (not only that, either). Its been more than offensive for a "battle-worn" veteran who has lost more in giving to this country than had gained.

    I mean, I lost a fiancee, a mentor and many "battle buddies" (a popular term in the Army for your comrades in war) to this "cause". I followed my orders and gave it everything I had, and ended up with just a bunch of bad memories. And after going through the worst time in my life to-date, I got to listen to these sawed-off punks tell me that I was wrong to kill Iraqis or whatever, and various other points that are more appropriately directed at the government rather than the forces that...well, are intended to serve as our nation's defense (See? I didn't exactly agree with all the government's choice's, either).

    I don't expect a red-carpet, now, so don't get me wrong. In fact, after my fiancee died and my mentor was killed, I utterly hated hearing civilians say "Thank you for your service" everytime I walked by in-uniform on base. But I don't like to take crap off of some little **** telling me I was a bad person for killing or that "I was a government puppet" while he wanted to go to the clubs and party it up or whatever. Even if he were closer to truth that I'd like.

    But do you have any idea how insulting that is? And my patience hasn't got any better since I've been through that hell, so its hard to put up with that kind of stuff. I'll admit, I'm crazy. I don't need hundreds of people thanking me for what I've done. I can live without that. I hate what I had done with a passion just burning inside. But I'd rather take a thank you than "You were wrong", "You fought the war a stupid way", "Hell, I could fight that in a better way", or "[insert bravado here]".

    I don't know. Maybe I am just bitter from this and went into a rant and I apologize for this bit of fury I have in here. I'm just insulted by the young and/or ignorant attitude towards my kind, especially what I had given up for THEM, not just my family and friends (I guess that's the point I'm trying to make of all of this).

    My take of it is; fight for your country, pay with the lives of your soul-mate and closest friend, and come back home. Then you tell me how much you know about war. I'm think I'm done *****ing now.
    Last edited by Dallas Alvis II; 07-06-2009, 06:10 AM.
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    #2
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    Iraq is Vietnam redux.

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      #3
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      A lot of people don't seem to put much thought into what goes on outside the country, outside the scope of their lives. Whatever they hear, or more often what they think they have heard on the news seems to be enough.

      Hopefully, most people in this forum aren't like that.

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        #4
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        Without war, peace would lose it's value. Just like to have hot, you must have cold. That's my opinion on war. However, I'm not for wars that are for the wrong reasons.
        Currently playing-
        Seiken Densetsu 3, Brain Lord, Terranigma (all SNES)

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          #5
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          there's only one thing to do.

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            #6
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            Originally posted by Gloom
            How is the military responsible for the loss of your fiancee? {:3
            The military is the cause of many relationships breaking up. Just put yourself in the place of the woman and imagine the situation.

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              So, was Rambo right? To survive a war, do you have to become war?
              "Pardon me, I have nothing to say!" -George Carlin

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                Originally posted by Armored View Post
                The military is the cause of many relationships breaking up. Just put yourself in the place of the woman and imagine the situation.
                **** another dude?

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                  Re: These people annoy me with the "War" subject.

                  Originally posted by Armored View Post
                  The military is the cause of many relationships breaking up. Just put yourself in the place of the woman and imagine the situation.
                  I'm pretty sure from an earlier post he mentioned his fiancee passed away while he was in service. Certainly not the fault of the actual military but he couldn't be there for her?
                  Last edited by DK; 07-06-2009, 08:55 PM.

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                    Re: These people annoy me with the "War" subject.

                    Originally posted by salamander View Post
                    Without war, peace would lose it's value. Just like to have hot, you must have cold. That's my opinion on war. However, I'm not for wars that are for the wrong reasons.
                    WOW, WHAT A DEEP ORIGINAL THOUGHT

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                      You would be right, Dreamknight. She died from a blood disease, not from the war itself. However I didn't actually say the military was responsible, what I was insinuating was that her death was more my fault than anything (my choice to ensign) and my time away from her is what killed her. And no, they didn't let me go see her when I got news that she was dying. If for whatever reason she was having an affair, I wouldn't blame her now. I don't think I came back as the guy she fell in love with. But she's gone now, and I've been trying to erase that memory as stupid as that may sound.

                      Haha, Gloom, in my neighborhood (particularly) you'd be surprised. Heh. I wouldn't think so either, though, as much as we seem to want our troops to come back home or whatever.

                      salamander, I can see where war can sometimes be a sad, "necessary evil" in this world. But that doesn't mean I have to like killing... If you have any good in your heart, when you take a life, you see yourself in a completely different light.
                      Last edited by Dallas Alvis II; 09-12-2009, 04:49 PM.
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                        Without war, peace would lose it's value. Just like to have hot, you must have cold. That's my opinion on war. However, I'm not for wars that are for the wrong reasons.
                        Without spontaneous human combustion, not randomly bursting into flames would lose it's value. Just like to have being eaten alive from the inside by ants, you must have not being eaten alive from the inside by ants. That's my opinion on spontaneous human combustion..
                        Last edited by Valkysas; 07-06-2009, 09:14 PM.



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                          Re: These people annoy me with the "War" subject.

                          Originally posted by Valkysas View Post
                          Without spontaneous human combustion, not randomly bursting into flames would lose it's value. Just like to have being eaten alive from the inside by ants, you must have not being eaten alive from the inside by ants. That's my opinion on spontaneous human combustion..
                          I'm against spontaneous human combustion...

                          But seriously, I can accept the reality that war is going to be a part of this world until we destroy ourselves, but as far as "war for the wrong reasons"....sorry, I can't say that I've ever killed for a "righteous" reason.
                          Last edited by Dallas Alvis II; 07-06-2009, 09:21 PM.
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                            #14
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                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMEViYvojtY

                            WARNING: HE SAYS THE "S" WORD
                            "Pardon me, I have nothing to say!" -George Carlin

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                              Classic. Funny thing is I loved this movie before I even thought of enlisting. Now, I haven't seen the movie since I came back home. Hehehe, ironic.
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                              Xiahou Dun: "He says he can't die until you do!"
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