Microsoft knew about hardware failures prior to 360 release

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http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_bl...&tag=;title;10

Yup. It's like the 9/11 conspiracy theories, but with this, it's apparently proven to be true.


Not trying to make light of 9/11 ON 9/11, but thought it was a relevant comparison.

[Valkysas]

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good job, gamespot. we found out about this last year.

[Perversion]

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[Valkysas]

Re: Microsoft knew about hardware failures prior to 360 release

NOT AGAINST YOU.

AGAINST GAMESPOT.

THEY SUCK.

[Goufunaki]

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[Perversion]

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Well, why was I not made aware of such knowledge a year ago??

I dunno. This is news to me, that Microsoft knowingly released hardware with a failure rate of 68 in 100 off the line. And then kept tinkering with it to make it even more unstable. To me, this reeks of a money-grab, without regard to the consequences. Sure, console makers are in it to make money, but it's very shady to knowingly release faulty product to the marketplace.

Bit 'em in the ass, though, with the $1 billion expenditure for the RRoD warranty.

[Tintenfisch]

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Welcome to the world of planned obsolescences.

[Perversion]

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We've been living in that world for quite some time. However, planned obsolescence generally refers to a particular product (usually computers) becoming obsolete upon purchase. It usually does not indicate that a product will fail due to manufacturing defect within the first six months to a year.


Yeah, pretty much anything technology-based is planned to be phased out and replaced by something else. The Xbox and the Xbox 360 had (in the case of the former) and is predicted to have (in the case of the latter) a five year lifespan. That's why I'm happy with my PS3, as Sony tends to allow their systems to have a decade lifespan. Yeah, it's PLANNED to be obsolete within a decade, but at least that's double the time I'll get out of my 360 (well, less if it RRoDs again).

[DarkwingChuck]

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Problem is that PS3 10-year life span won't work out near as well as it did for PS2. Developers kept/keep making games for PS2 well into this gen because practically every gaming house has one. That's not as true for PS3. Factor in the supposed expense and difficulty developing for PS3 and I doubt it'll get many new games after the next gen is in full swing.

[SkylureX]

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My second 360 just died... It was a unit from my last repair that I only had it for about 5 months. The crappy part is that my warranty ended about a week before it died (not a RRoD), so I have to pay for the repair.

Stoopid Microsoft.

[Jeroak Nelave]

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Wow, and people think i'm stupid for having some loyalty to Sony and my PS3. Microsoft had to release when they did, this is the ONLY reason they have the market share they have now, even with their successful deception of the consumer, and they knew they would get the lead in this way.

[Perversion]

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I've NEVER liked Sony's consoles, but the PS3, and soon thereafter, the PSP, made me a convert. As one of Sony's tech support guys told me once, "I've embraced the dark side."

[Jeroak Nelave]

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I had always been a hardcore Nintendo fan, and then i converted to a Nintendo and Sega fan because of the Genesis, and i had absolutely NO desire to get the Playstation, until Nintendo decided to go cartridge based, which i knew was the worst idea, so i ended up going with the Playstation first that gen, and i havent looked back.

Everyone knows that Sony's track record for hardware isnt all that until the PS3, but to deliberately put the 360 on the market to make sure they get market share, when they knew that almost 3/4 of their systems were defective, is downright dishonest. Too bad Sony is paying the price for it.

[Valkysas]

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Not Sony, so much as the 360's userbase. Yes, Sony is playing catch-up, but they're doing that in the race against the Wii too, along with the DS in the portable market. Sony is behind because of what Sony has done, not anyone else. They're paying the price right now for everything they said in 2005 and 2006. They changed in 2007, but people remember being constantly disrespected by them in those two years, and most are not willing to forgive just yet.

Microsoft's 3 year warranty extension was a quick fix. it's not going to make things better in the long run. they still havent fixed the RROD issues, or any of the other system-killing problems in the console. what happens when that extended warranty is out? people whose consoles die then will have to make a very big decision. whether to buy another 360 that will very likely die again, or buy a PS3 and know that it'll turn on every time they ask it to.

I know quite a few former 360-fanboys who have turned to the PS3 after repeated system failures. they still own their 360's, but any games that come out for both systems, they buy for the PS3 to cut down the risk of RROD.

[Chrono]

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I've gone through 3 PS2s but stuck with it due to the game selection. The same is true with the 360, except I haven't had to pay for repairs.