What was cut during the development process from RPGM2?

[Red Dragon]

I am curious as well and this is the topic for it!

[Valkysas]

Re: What was cut during the development process from RPGM2?

part-based character creator, multiple default battle systems, tons of other stuff that never made it past the "ideas on paper" level.

Few years ago, Mark Johnson from agetec posted about his desire to do an RPGM2.5, with all that cut content included. It never happened, but the list is big enough to have made that something even worth considering.

[Duel]

Re: What was cut during the development process from RPGM2?

How about RPG Maker 3?

[Valkysas]

Re: What was cut during the development process from RPGM2?

I don't know of anything. I only know about RPGM2's cut features because since Enterbrain and Agetec were taking suggestions from the pavilion for it's development, they kept us informed. Most of those old posts are gone now because of the big EZboard crash, but I remember most of it.

I was just as in-the-dark about RPGM3's development as anyone else.

[Wavelength]

Re: What was cut during the development process from RPGM2?

part-based character creator

Would have been very cool, especially in RM3 where we ended up having a dearth of models and a ton of distinguishing features on each one.

I bet it could have been done without too much trouble in RM2! Bad cut!

multiple default battle systems

Now as someone who has disliked every (English) RPGM DBS to date thus far, this one just makes me think "what if" and start to cry.

I guess the trouble with something like this is that the skill/magic setup, and maybe even the character setup, would have to be different based on which DBS you choose. I don't see this as a dealbreaker, though! Just pick your DBS at the beginning, show the appropriate creation pages in the editor, and let the creator work from there!

tons of other stuff that never made it past the "ideas on paper" level.

Think you can remember some of the other stuff (no matter how small the feature was)? I'm getting really curious about this...

[Karr Lord of Chaos]

Re: What was cut during the development process from RPGM2?

i wonder why building an rpg is so much more popular in japan then north america. are we just all lazy over here? i really wanted this niche to expand but its shrinking as the software dates.

i think mark wanted the second rpg maker to preform as well or better then the first which is why he asked for our involvement. that its sales where not super great kind of killed our chance at contributing for the 3rd.


rpg maker 1 is still by far the most flexible of all the console makers.

[Valkysas]

Re: What was cut during the development process from RPGM2?

Think you can remember some of the other stuff (no matter how small the feature was)? I'm getting really curious about this...

I'm having a really hard remembering what was public info and what wasn't, sorry. If I remember anything that I know was public, I'll post it.

[Red Dragon]

Re: What was cut during the development process from RPGM2?

rpg maker 1 is still by far the most flexible of all the console makers.

I think RPGM2 was the most flexable, but RPGM1 was easier to use. Mainly because RPGM2 had variables and RPGM1 only had flags.

[Mcardy]

Re: What was cut during the development process from RPGM2?

RPGM1 is in no way flexible. Way too many limitations.

The problem AGETEC had was competing with superior PC products which were free due to piracy.

[Valkysas]

Re: What was cut during the development process from RPGM2?

didn't 2 do pretty well? I can't remember.

[ErikaFuzzbottom]

Re: What was cut during the development process from RPGM2?

I don't know anything about sales, other than RPGM1 hit 100k at some point.

I remember, a while back, Valk had this big list of things that didn't make the cut in the final edition of RPGM2, but had to get taken down because Enterbrain didn't want all that info out. Thinking on it, I kinda wonder what ill effects there would be with that info public.

The only thing I remember from that list is that characters were gonna have more animations available, in some way.

[Valkysas]

Re: What was cut during the development process from RPGM2?

I'll clarify. I took it down because like in this topic, I was unsure of what was supposed to be public info and what was not. No one yelled at me, or anything. I was PRETTY SURE everything on the list was public info, but I had some doubt in my head. So I figured it was better to be safe and just take it all down.

[Karr Lord of Chaos]

Re: What was cut during the development process from RPGM2?

with rpg maker 2 you had a big limitation of memory cap. you could change damn near everything but you needed to know a lot of programing type commands to do so. did we ever break the space limits of rpg maker 2? with rpg maker 1 much of those limitations where shattered by innovative thinking.