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[Chrome Homura]

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Sorry to be off topic, but how long will MAC be on vacation?

[Valkysas]

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no clue.

[Czechs Mex]

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Very funny. Your text is IMPOSSIBLE to read, therefore, you are celebrating a false victory. By the way, I totally understand that you guys understand that the cops' actions were unjustified, but I'm just pointing out that you guys don't seem to understand just how unjust they were. WHY DO YOU THINK HE WAS ON THE GROUND SCREAMING TO BEGIN WITH??!!! THEY TAZERED HIM, THAT'S WHY!!!!
Oh, you probably can't read that. Here you go, in something that doesn't make you SQUINT.

WHY DO YOU THINK HE WAS ON THE GROUND SCREAMING TO BEGIN WITH??!!! THEY TAZERED HIM, THAT'S WHY!!!!

Wow, that's some pretty obnoxious text emphasis, but it did grab my attention. However, the student himself has stated that what you're saying happened is not the case.

He was on the ground screaming to begin with because he fell limp in protest. That's when they tasered him.

Olbermann interviews Mostafa's lawyer

[IRC]

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Man, that lawyer is obnoxious.

[The Toecutter]

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So it's not that you're being paranoid it's that we're all just too stupid to understand?

Were I paranoid, I would have displayed a markedly illogical fear or distrust of others. All I did was point out what rights we have, the fact that they have been eroded, and why even the most trivial and harmless erosions are still erosions of them nonetheless and why people shouldn't be expected by default to accept them.

Were I paranoid, I wouldn't even post the things I do online for fear that someone might use it against me or find some spurious grounds to have me investigated. Were I paranoid, I wouldn't bother posting my picture and other personal information online for fear someone might misuse it or for fear that certain officials would actually target me in specific to be monitored(even if the possibility for this exists). Were I paranoid, I wouldn't even have gotten a drivers' license, even though the information collected as a prerequisite to mobility is quite indeed a violation of my rights. It makes me a hypocrite, not paranoid. Hell, I even admitted I got a student ID, despite my argument that it is a violation of my rights to be required to have one(even if a small, mostly inconsequential violation). I do what is practical, and if I can reasonably avoid having certain rights violated, I will indeed take the necessary measures, but that doesn't mean I approve of any violations that occur and that doesn't mean our government has a right to commit them. Doesn't mean that even small, inconsequential violations are acceptable, and that doesn't mean I don't have any reason not to be outraged by these recent trends, or disgusted with them. Should particularly egregious abuses occur, that doesn't mean I'm a paranoid loony for advocating that ones rights may need to be defended with the aid of arms or for mentioning that is exactly as the founders of this nation intended.

For your edification should you sneer at that previous sentence, successful armed resistance has even occurred in the U.S. during the mid 20th century. Recall the Battle of Athens, Tennessee, where in 1946 a discontented citizenry ousted a crooked sheriff with the use of firearms.

http://www.jpfo.org/athens.htm

Other notable instances exist, but listing one is sufficient.

A truly paranoid individual would think someone was plotting to nuke this country by some means, or start mailing people letter bombs because their political views are well outside of what is accepted as mainstream and claim that rights may need to be protected with whatever means necessary. We have some particularly paranoid individuals running our government and its institutions as I type this.

But it is not paranoia for one to be concerned for the rights they have and the ongoing or potential erosion of them, even if these abuses may never occur to them personally. Even if I may never again be a target of abuse in the future, that doesn't mean others will not and it doesn't mean I have no reason for concern.

Maybe some here are too closed-minded to understand what I was trying to convey. Maybe they just don't care to understand. Maybe I'm not getting my point across in a sufficiently concise manner. Whatever the case may be, what I am saying hasn't gotten across given the prevalence of my words being twisted to mean something that I didn't intend to convey, assertions of paranoia, and what have you.



As for MAC's case, letting one's emotions dictate an argument isn't very convincing. He could have at least been more respectful to the people here, but it is apparent why he was upset. We certainly didn't need Caciss' name calling. Valk is correct about no one trying to justify the police tasering of this individual.

[IRC]

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Can't you make parallells?

[Czechs Mex]

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I can make some.

For example, yesterday on TV I watched a thing about savants and they had this small section on asian math kids using abacuses really fast...blah blah blah Today I go in the Pav's Picture topic and there's an abacus.


That's just one example but it happens all the time. I'll mention something to a friend that I haven't talked about it years and then the next day I will see something about it on TV. OR I'll learn a new word I've never heard before and the next day I'll hear someone use it.
It's weird cause it's always things that are rare or hardly talked about and as soon as I mention it/learn of it, it starts popping up everywhere.

Anyone else notice this.

And is it because of me saying it that another person says it to another to another and it somehow gets around, or that we watched the same thing on TV, OR is it like some overall mindset that people use based on current situations in society that cause things to pop up more prevalently OR is it just that I notice it more because it's something fresh in my head?

[Crimson Knight]

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I thought police had to be tazed before they could even handle one? I'm sure it'd keep some officers from abusing such weapons. There are less harmful ways of restraining someone.

[IRC]

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Aw, did someone delete my post or did I just not hit reply?

[The Toecutter]

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Can't you make parallells?

In the most literal sense, no. By definition, parallel lines extend in opposite directions to infinity in 3-dimensional Euclidean space, are coplanar and cannot intersect, and they would thus be physically impossible to draw given the inability to draw off into infinity.

I thought police had to be tazed before they could even handle one? I'm sure it'd keep some officers from abusing such weapons. There are less harmful ways of restraining someone.

Normally, their tasers are turned down to a lower voltage and power rating when they are used on themselves. It is atypical for a taser to be used on a police officer at its full setting.

[IRC]

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You're too late, Valk already declared me the winner.

[The Toecutter]

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Winner? Whatever happened to merely exchanging information and viewpoints for their own sake?

[Czechs Mex]

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I think he's saying you missed the penises he drew.

[IRC]

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Winner? Whatever happened to merely exchanging information and viewpoints for their own sake?

I live in the ****ing US of A. Commie.

[The Toecutter]

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I reckun' them there commies drive them new-fangled pickup-em-up trucks wit' them Texass flags on 'em.