TMNT - the new movie

[ErikaFuzzbottom]

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What's wrong with the 80s?

[Magus]

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I just don't want Donatello to be this expert hacker.

I don't want that to happen yet I know it will.

[Perversion]

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My ex-friend met the creator of the turtles at this sci-fi con we went to, and he sat and talked to us (well, mostly to my ex-friend) for about 10 minutes while drawing a freehand sketch of one of the turtles for him. At that same convention, I managed to hand Kevin Smith a copy of this underground video that the same ex-friend and I had been working on. Later that night, we saw Eyes Wide Shut on opening night under the influence of....you guessed it....I'll even censor myself...librarians.

EDIT: If anyone read my comments on the Kevin Smith thread, they'll know I pretty much dislike the guy, but we figured giving him a tape of our work might be a way to get our foot in the door, so yes, giving him our tape was selfish and self-seeking, but that's life in the big city...

[Garr123]

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Weren't the orinal comics pretty dark and more mature than everything else that came afterward? I hardly remember them but when I read a few that my friend had lone ago that was the impression that I got.

[marcus]

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What's wrong with the 80s?

you mean other than parachute pants, care bears, anti-gay "homosexuality created aids" rallies, the Reagan administration, MC Hammer, and hairbands?

Weren't the orinal comics pretty dark and more mature than everything else that came afterward? I hardly remember them but when I read a few that my friend had lone ago that was the impression that I got.

Yes, they were. The original Mirage Studios comics were pretty dark and heavily rooted in crime and and the new, rebellious generation of teenagers in New York. The TMNT live action movie was actually based off the comic books with a few new additions.

[Magus]

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Weren't the orinal comics pretty dark and more mature than everything else that came afterward? I hardly remember them but when I read a few that my friend had lone ago that was the impression that I got.

As far as I know the original premise involved Splinter and Shredder as age-old rivals. Once the mutation stuff happens Splinter raises the turtles only to kill Shredder.

I never did read the original thing.

But here's some great news. The source is this place but I copied the text to read here. You CAN go there to see what the character posters will be like. Otherwise,

Director Kevin Munroe took the stage and showed a trailer (which is supposed to be up on Apple.com right now!) and then showed a 5 minute piece. In-between he answered a bunch of questions. You can see the trailer, so I'll describe some of the footage we saw after these tidbits gleaned from the panel.

- Release date is March 30, 2007

- Mako is voicing Splinter!

- Wouldn't reveal the voices for the Turtles (When asked, Munroe said, "Robin Williams is doing all the voices... No! No! Just kidding! Don't go and blog about that!"), but said all 4 actors aren't celebrities

- When they recorded the dialogue they had all 4 voice actors in the booth, which resulted in a much more natural back and forth between these mystery voice actors, who Munroe said were very sharp writers themselves. Lots of improv and natural reactions.

- Peter Laird is the "Godfather of all things Ninja Turtles" according to Munroe and he had to sign off on Munroe's involvement and has been constantly giving advice on the film

- Munroe wanted a sense of family with the Turtles. Quarreling brothers, etc.

- A little like SUPERMAN RETURNS this film kind of fits in after the 2nd movie, but there will be nods to the cartoon and previous films (including 3), but will be a "rebirth" of a movie

- TMNT will be an action comedy, but Munroe was quick to point out that the comedy comes from the characters, not fart jokes

- No Vanilla Ice

- No Corey Feldman (but Munroe made sure not trash talk the Feldmeister)

- Shredder is NOT the bad guy

- The universe is a bit more realistic, set in a world most like the first feature film.

- Casey Jones and April O'Neil return and the movie builds on their romance

- One person asked about full turtle on human bestiality in the film. Munroe: "No! Security!"

- John Woo? As far as Munroe knows, Woo was never officially attached. He said he thought it was just a rumor.

- Marco Beltrami is scoring! And he wants to give Ninja Turtles a theme as powerful as Elfman's BATMAN theme.


The exclusive presentation wasn't a huge deal, but we saw lots of glimpses at stuff... Bat monsters, lithe ninja chicks, big armored dude (not Shredder). Saw some work on Splinter. He's less extreme looking than the turtles. Still a big rat, a little more furry than the cartoon Splinter, but not as bizarre and dirty looking as the movie version. Mostly the footage was lots of tests and unfinished shots of the Turtles jumping around. There were facial tests of all the turtles making different, funny faces, a cool looking "muscle test" that had Leonardo lifting something heavy up, showing the bulging muscles and straining veins.

There was a scene of Michaelangelo in a fake turtle suit at a kid's birthday party. His legs were his own, but there was a fake zipper down his middle and fuzzy big turtle head on his own. The kids beat the hell out of him and he said (to Donatello who was speaking to him via an earpiece) "Why can't I hit 'em back?" Then he got beat up by the rowdy kids. They were called away for "more sugar" by the mom and Mikey slowly curled himself up into a fetal position.

The final shot had grey-scale Raphael and Leonardo standing on a rooftop, facing each other down for some unknown reason. Raphael had his sais out, Leonardo has his katana out. The charge each other, seemingly very serious, and just as their weapons look to collide they cut to black.

[Nixon]

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If you guys haven't read the first TMNT graphic novel, go get a copy NOW! Thankfully, my best friend's older brother had a copy back in the day, and he let us read it.

I still have my copy, which I got from a comic shop when I was in 6th grade. It has an ad for Abadox and Phantom Fighter inside!


It's an AWESOME read and easy to find.

[Magus]

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I just searched Midtown Comics and Amazon and only came up with recent stuff.

[Nixon]

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Maybe try eBay.

I checked eBay, they have a few copies right now. It looks like they gave it a crappy new cover for the later reprints.

[Magus]

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Can you link? I found a few too but they're damn expensive. I thought this'd be something easy to pick up like Dark Knight Returns or Maus.

[Nixon]

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Just plug in "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" and "Graphic novel" (or Eastman/Laird) into their search engine and click the box that says "search title and description." Some of the auctions were expensive, but check the ebay "stores" option at the bottom of the page for cheaper copies of the reprints. If you have any questions, ask the seller of the item. Good luck.

Grah, some links.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Teenage-Mutant-N...QQcmdZViewItem

Not sure about this one, might ask the seller for more info:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Teenage-Mutant-N...QQcmdZViewItem

Here's one for all four of the graphic novels:
http://cgi.ebay.com/EASTMAN-AND-LAIR...QQcmdZViewItem

You might check other local places or comic websites. The best way to get a deal on eBay is to be patient and keep checking back from time to time.

[Magus]

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Thanks, doll.

[Biggie]

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Just the fact that its based after the first 2 movies gets me excited.

[ErikaFuzzbottom]

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- A little like SUPERMAN RETURNS this film kind of fits in after the 2nd movie, but there will be nods to the cartoon and previous films (including 3), but will be a "rebirth" of a movie

Gee, I sure didn't see that one coming. [/sarcasm]

It's been a long time since I've last seen the first movie, and I'm pretty sure I never saw the following three. About the only thing I remember about the first movie is how I was a little iffy that "Bebox" and "Rocksteady" (okay, it's been a LONG time since I've seen the movies AND the old cartoons, so sorry if I'm wrong with names) were just people turned into monsters with seemingly no intelligence. ...Well, less intelligence than the cartoon versions.

I have some catching up to do.

[Biggie]

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Gee, I sure didn't see that one coming. [/sarcasm]

It's been a long time since I've last seen the first movie, and I'm pretty sure I never saw the following three. About the only thing I remember about the first movie is how I was a little iffy that "Bebox" and "Rocksteady" (okay, it's been a LONG time since I've seen the movies AND the old cartoons, so sorry if I'm wrong with names) were just people turned into monsters with seemingly no intelligence. ...Well, less intelligence than the cartoon versions.

I have some catching up to do.

Bebop and Rocksteady were never in any of the movies. There was two monsters named Toka and Razor in the second one, but they were made from a dog and snapping turtle that were experimented on with "ooze".