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    Military draft back on US agenda

    Either pull out or draft. Bush doesn't want to pull out. Too much oil money and defense contracts for a few execs to make a killing on.

    http://finance.news.com.au/story/0,1...-23109,00.html

    Military draft back on US agenda

    By Maxim Kniazkov in Washington
    June 13, 2005

    THE United States would "have to face" a painful dilemma on restoring the military draft as rising casualties saw the number of volunteers dry up, a senator warned today.
    Joseph Biden, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, made the prediction after new data released by the Pentagon showed the US Army failing to meet its recruitment targets for four straight months.

    "We're going to have to face that question," he said on NBC's Meet the Press TV show when asked if it was realistic to expect restoration of the draft.

    "The truth of the matter is, it is going to become a subject, if, in fact, there's a 40 per cent shortfall in recruitment. It's just a reality," he said.

    The comment came after the Department of Defence announced the army had missed its recruiting goal for May by 1661 recruits, or 25 per cent. Similar losses have been reported by army officials every month since February.

    Experts said even that figure was misleading because the army has quietly lowered its May recruitment target from 8050 to 6700 people.

    Since October, the shortfall in recruits has been put at more than 8000 people, which amounts to the loss of about a modern brigade.

    The army, navy and marine corps reserves also fell short of their monthly goals by 18 per cent, six per cent and 12 per cent respectively, according to the latest figures.

    Recruitment at the Army National Guard was down 29 per cent, while the Air National Guard fell short 22 per cent.

    The United States abandoned the military draft in 1973, following mass protests during the Vietnam War, and switched to an all-volunteer force.

    Mandatory registration for the draft was suspended in 1975, but resumed in 1980 after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. About 13.5 million men are now registered with the US Government as potential draftees.

    During the 2004 election campaign, Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry repeatedly accused President George W. Bush of planning to re-instate "a back-door draft", charges the president vehemently denied.

    But while admitting that restoring the draft would be politically "very difficult," Senator Patrick Leahy, the ranking Democrat of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said something would have to be done because the situation with recruitment was not likely to improve.

    "If you think you have trouble getting recruits today, you're going to have far more trouble six months from now," he predicted on CBS's Face the Nation.

    "It is not going to get better. That's going to get worse."

    Republican Representative Curt Weldon called the recruitment shortfalls "troublesome" and "unacceptable".

    But he urged the military "to find ways to fix the current system" and to attract more recruits with the help of new incentives.

    Nearly 1900 US troops have been killed in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere since the beginning of the war on terror in the wake of the September 11, 2001, attacks.
    The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

    #2
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    Scarry.


    Just scarry.

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      #3
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      I knew it.

      I ****ing knew it.

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        #4
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        That doesn't say anything about the draft coming back...
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          #5
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          No, but the draft has been on the agenda for sometime, including women and they has also talked about raising the cut off age to 35.

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            #6
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            Theys donted taked thosed welled um edumacated peoples doos theys. Derrrr eyesed hope nots cuzzed thened maybies I'ld have a chanced!
            Everything is a Riemann sum of a lot of nothing.

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              #7
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              Want to avoid war? Become a fatty.
              "Mindless killing doesn't do a lot for me anymore." - Sampson

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                #8
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                The reason we're in this situation is a mismanagement of resources (troops).

                This is something Bush excels at.

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                  #9
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                  That doesn't say anything about the draft coming back...
                  Actually, it does, within Joseph Biden's quote.

                  Joseph Biden, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, made the prediction after new data released by the Pentagon showed the US Army failing to meet its recruitment targets for four straight months.

                  "We're going to have to face that question," he said on NBC's Meet the Press TV show when asked if it was realistic to expect restoration of the draft.


                  Aka: they're going to have to consider either pulling out of Iraq, or starting a draft.
                  The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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                    #10
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                    One guy saying "If __________, then we might have to consider ___________" Does not equal "__________ is definately going to happen"
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                      #11
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                      But the article didn't say it was definite. I, on the other hand, did say that realistically, we have two options: 1) pull out of Iraq, or 2) draft. We simply do not have the manpower, period. The military is chronically falling behind their recruiting goals as of late, and are so desperate they've even kidnapped potential recruits(The case I will post entailed the Marines).

                      http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/paynte...paynter08.html

                      Of course, I'd like to hear what you have to say about this issue. Do you think there would or could be a draft? Why or why not? If not, then how do you think we will remain in Iraq, or can we even remain there as we are? How about the morale of our soldiers there? Thousands have already deserted and fled to Ireland and elsewhere.
                      The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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                        #12
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                        Joeseph Biden is cool, I saw him on TV once.
                        "Pardon me, I have nothing to say!" -George Carlin

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                          #13
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                          Personally, I can't stand the prick. Do a little search on the businesses he takes money from, then look at the legislation he approves of. Telecommunications and radio industries up his ass.
                          The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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                            #14
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                            I dunno about all that, I just like the guy's douchebag personallity. He wasn't acting all... politiciany...
                            "Pardon me, I have nothing to say!" -George Carlin

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                              #15
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                              I think the following sums him up pretty well:

                              The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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