RPG Maker Pavilion

Anyone have any RPGM1 games you'd like me to play

Dallas Alvis — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:04:38 GMT

I'm getting my Dex Drive and a few more memory cards in the mail in a week or so. So I've been thinking of popping in RPG Maker and playing a few old and possibly new creations. I may even make some LPs, if the creator's consent to it. Anyone have any creations you want me to look at? :happy

Wow...Like, Rush Hour on FX is....not funny.

Dallas Alvis — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:46:16 GMT

At all. Yay, censorship.

:|

They won't even let in "Go screw yourself," now? What the hell, man?

New 2nd Gen 8GB iPod Touch owner

RUBICN64 — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:58:35 GMT

Anybody have any ideas on any cool free/paid apps or games I should get?

So far I have:

Apps:

AIM (free version)

AOL Radio

Comcast Mobile App

Facebook

G4

Gamespot

IGN

Last FM

Opera Mini

Twitter

Joystiq

Games:

Bejeweled 2

Plants vs Zombies

Bookworm

Peggle

Chuzzle

Mafia Wars

Farmville

Sonic The Hedgehog 2

Mr. Space!!

equipment assortment - wip

Karr Lord of Chaos — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:09:22 GMT

i ran out of time so ill post what i have and finish it later. a bit down is a part of my equipment manifesto from gamefaqs on a weapons discussion for vagrent story. i saved the posts as it was some very good information. ill cut what i need later.

cast and their equipment preferences

haidar
roshan
xiko
lady keli

jordan
goldwin
alpha dex
elgan flagstaff

omega
vukili (sp)
?
?

ash
?
guest

weapons listing (in no order)

Just cause I'm bored and people like BeckStir and Verboten like this stuff I'm going to explain some of the Weapons and Armor in the game like they are in history.

Banded Mail- Made of overlapping strips of metal sewn into leather and chain mail. Ususally only covered vulnerable areas and didn't cover joints so movement wasn't restricted. Weight is even all over the body because of good use of straps and buckles.

Brigandine- This is made of small metal plates sewn into canvas or leather with an outer layer of thick cloth. It is stiff and again doesn't cover joints.

Ring Mail- This is a less effective form of chain mail made by sewing metal rings directly to a leather backing instead of being interlocked. Some people argue wether this even existed.

Chain Mail- Made of interlocking metal rings, and it is always worn with a layer of fabric padding to prevent chafin and lowering the impact of blows. It was very effective but most of the weight is on the shoulders making it difficult to wear for very long.

Scale Armor- Actually Scale Mail, it was a coat and leggings of leather with overlapping pieces of metal that looked like scales on it.

Plate Mail- This is a combination of chain or brigandine with metal plates covering vital areas (curiass, epaulettes, elbow guards, gauntlets, tasets, and greaves). The weight is even over the whole body. This is very common and effective armor.

Splint Mail- Again, some people don't believe it existed but this is just like banded mail except the strips are vertical instead of horizontal making movement difficult.

I have never heard of or even know if Fluted, Jazerainte, or Dread armor even exist in the real world. Hoplite armor wasn't actually an armor, but very effective Greek Militia were called Hoplites. They used Heavy armor, spears, shields, and a formation called Phalanx.

WEAPONS:

Stilleto- This dagger was used in unison with a Rapier.

Kris- A Kris knife was an extremely sharp dagger.

Baselard- a Baselard was a short sword built for speed.

Rapier- A rapier is a fencing sword used for piercing and thrusting. It was very quick and required much skill....but basically was a giant hypodermic needle tee hee.

Shotel- The Norman sword. It a large dip in the blade that looked like a crescent almost and could be thrown very easily.

Falchion- The blade curves from the very beginning, it looks like the sword Hasan in the old Looney Toons cartoons used (HASAN CHOP!)

Khopesh- The Khopesh sword was what the Egyptians used. It wasn't a very effctive sword, very awkward. But it could be used to hook an opponents weapon....which is what it looked like. The sword went out and then turned into a large hook or scythe.

Wakizashi- This is a short Katana. That is basically what it is.

Footman's Mace- This was a very long mace used by foot soldiers. It was used for breaking bones and crushing and worked against all types of mail armor.

Bec de Corbin- This was a very large weapon, about 12 or so ft. long. It had a large hammer on one side and a pick or beak on the other. You would break through armor with that side and beat someone down with the hammer.

Katana- Sword used by the Japanese. It was about a meter long and curved. The Hilt was long and the sword was extremely sharp from folding the blade and very balanced for extremely quick attacks.

Nodachi- About a foot and a half longer than the katana and had a large, thicker blade. It was the two handed sword version of the katana (the real katana was not actually a two handed sword, though some used it with 2 hands)

Bastard Sword- This sword was simply a long sword with a longer hilt so you could use it with two hands raising the power of your strikes.

Broad Sword- Generally a shorter blade, though it had a thick, wide blade. It was an effective sword to say the least.

Glaive- This was simple a single edged blade mounted on an 8 to 10 foot pole. The blade usualy looked like an axe or cleaver.

Awl Pike- This is a long spear ending in a spike point with a tapered spear head. The pole was usually 12 to 20 ft. long. It was used mostly in ''side-by-side'' formations.

Fauchard- This was merely a very, very long Scythe that also had a point on it for thrusting and slashing.

Voulge- This was merely a very long cleaver or axe. It was also called the Lochaber Axe

Bardiche- This was a very long Battle Axe

Crossbows- The only 2 I reconize is Light Cross bow, it was small enough to be able to be pulled by one person, and an Arbalest. The Arbalest was a very large crossbow that required the use of a tool called a ''CRANEQUIN'' to help reload it. Cranequin is a tool, not an actual bow.

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Claymore- Scottish sword used for slashing. They are very large but rather thin in comparison to other great swords. It is also double edged. This was useful for its maneuverability. It was an improvement from the otherwise conciderably heavier great swords for you only spared a few amount of power for speed and control. You'll find claymores in the movie ''Braveheart.'' William Wallace's sword is a good example. It is my choice favorite long sword.

Shamshir (scimitar)- A Persian blade with and extremely long and curved blade used for slashing. Piercing was virtually impossible. It was more of a pick up and run weapon, where just about anyone can pick it up and use it. It was effective and practical.

Leg pieces were kind of sketchy in the game where they didn't make it very clear as to where the parts belonged.

Cruisse- Simply a metal thigh piece worn along with full bodied armor.

Greave- Same as above but for the shins.

Also, the spur was first used in Europe rather than in the US, as it is famous because of Cowboys. They were of course used by riders and manly in jousting, where it required the horse to go along one path at a very high speed.

About the metal types, they were forged with bronze but it was very maliable and was somewhat ineffective in combat. Iron was used widely afterward, because it was very durable. However, I question the exhistance of hagane and damascus. I think they were just put in the game as special metals (Mythril). Silver in terms of combat was horrible. It was used more as decoration rather than battle. It is evident in the game that Silver weapons lose attack strength. Silver was supposedly the weakness of some mythical creatures, so that is also why they pumped it up full of undead affinity points. I hope that there is some information
out there that can verify the exhistance of hagane and damascus. I'd like to know.

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Close Helm- Were one of the most recognized helms of the medieval times. You'd know if you saw it. It was usually made of steel and was completely closed as the name suggests. It had holes for vision yet it was somewhat limited. Great head protection but all you gotta do is bash the guy's head in with a mace and it's all over. The helmets that the Soldiers were seen in are Close Helms.

Barbut- Also of classic style. It is one of those bullet head shapes usually with a ''T'' opening in the front. Magneto style.

Sallet- Half enclosed from the top down, exposing the mouth. Think Robocop.

Cabasset- It was more like a metal hat rather than a helm.

Basinet- Usually eliptical and covered the whole head.

Spangelhelm- Segmented conical crown, connected by vertical straps.

Targa Shield- Round Scottish shield. Very small and light concidering that it was just a construction of leather over wood. Weight distribution was important when concidering that Scottsmen used it in combination to the rather heavy Claymores.

Kris- Very exotic daggers with a wavy blade. Think Soul Reaver but minimized.

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I think Kris is based on the 'Keris' blade, which is a wavy bladed knife.

Khukuri is a version of Kukri, the Gurkhan blade. The widened blade and shallow bend make it perfect for disembowelling, stabbing and, in times of peace, harvesting crops.

A Gastraph bow (Or Gastraff) is an Italian hunting bow, too cumbersome and slow for battle due to the wind-on mechanism for drawing back the bow.

The Masamune story was of two weaponsmiths in Japan, Masamune and Murumasa. The greatest blades they made gained mythic status, Masamune for never shedding blood (I didn't understand this bit either), the Murumasa for being a dark and bloody blade. The were stuck into a tree (Or thrown into a river), and the leaves (Or currents) would pass by the Masamune, but were cut in half by the Murumasa. For more information, check out the FFVII's message board 'Why there was no Blood in Aeris' Death. Both Masamune and Murumasa also appear in Castlevania.

Bardysh (Or Bardiche) were sort of like larger forms of Halberds, with a large spike coming out of the top and an elliptic blade.

Damascus steel, or Damask steel DID exist, and was noted for it's wavy pattern given during its water cooling. It was a strong alloy, using techniques similar to those used today.

Shotel's weren't Norman, they were Abyssinian. They were a step up from the traditional sickle-swords used by the Egyptians. Heat Shotels also appear in BOF3.

Yggdrasil (As in Yggdrasils tears) was the Nordic Tree of life, who also appears in BOF3.

The affinity gemstones all seem to take a leaf from the Secret of Mana Book of Elements. In Secret of Mana, four of the Elemental Beasts were Salamando, Undine, Gnome and Sylphid. I'm currently searching for Grimoire Shade and Grimoire Lumin, the Dark and Light elementals.

Morlock Jets I think refer to Moloch, the Demon of Thorns.

Wyverns are heraldicly two-legged dragons, which is how they appear in the game. However the Dragons aren't technically Dragons, being bipedal. Then again, who am I to say how they walk?

Dulluhans (Or Duruhans, or Dhurons, or Dihions) are suits of armour possessed by demons and thought to be headless due to lack of helmets. They also appear in Castlevania.

Balin (As in Balin's revenge, an Axe I found) refers to one of two kings in the Dark ages, King Bran and King Balin. It's not too clear as to who was the evil one and who the good one, but according to Robert Rankins 'Sprouts of Wrath', Balin was evil and wielded a mighty axe.

All the rooms in Iron Maidens B1 to B3 are tortures, in case you haven't guessed. I could go into detail, but little kiddies could read this.

Dao isn't a genie. I always thought of Dao as like Dao-Chao, the Wutai god in FFVII. Of course, in Daoism he is a warm and compassionate God, so I'll back down on this point.

The reason for so few Japanese weapons was because the game was set in a medieval town similar to European, so they got all the weapons from around the Euro-Turkish area. Another reason is that the Japanese didn't alter their weapons much. Wakizashi, Katana and Nodachi are all blades made to the same specifications, but to varying lengths. If something works, why change it?

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Asura: an iron statue of a woman. That's what they meant with Iron Maiden. As you can see on the map, the room where you fight Asura is called... The Iron Maiden.

Also, if you want more info about legends and religion in games (Xenogears to be more precise), try http://www.zenogias.com/index3.html. The trivia section there is pretty good. It has stuff about Sephiroth, Zohar, etc.

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My father has just shed new light on the subject. Damascus is simply Steel heated to a very high temperature for hardness, the blade is folded many times (kind of like a Katana). The Steel also has a moderate Carbon content which gave it's edge very good staying power. Amazing what your parents will know. Also, Damascus is a grey like color, not gold tinted.

I also ask him about the best metal to make a sword out of these days. he said a metal called ATS-34. This metal is a Stainless Steel with very high carbon content that would keep it's edge VERY well. A slightly stronger metal would be Carbon Steel but it rust very easily.

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Shasmir is not from Persia, it came from India ( an area called Kasmir )then shiped to Europe then the european call it Shasmir.

Splint mail did exist in ancient China.

For damascus metal, It's real, most kris blade I saw, made from this metal.

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Just to add my two cents worth:

A large percentage of european weapon names were generic rather than specific. For example, ''short sword'', a term commonly applied to things like the roman gladius, was just as often used for longer daggers. Heck, ''dagger'' itself, can refer to any long knife used in battle, from main gauches to poinards. ''long sword'' and ''broad sword'' are equally vague. So two people could be talking about ''long swords'' and be refering to differant blades. As time went on, the names became more and more consistant. Most places outside of europe had consistant weapon names much earlier, especially the arab and asian cultures.

As an addition to the Kris, not only is the blade wavy, but if I remember right, it had some religious significance. I can't for the life of me remember what it was though, but I vaguely remember it having something to do with the number of waves in the blade.

Oh, and in referance to a specific point made some time ago, the terms Gnome, Slyph, Salamander and Undine are actually what earth, air, fire and water elementals are called in the old alchemical texts. That is to say a gnome IS an earth elemental, a slyph IS an air elemental, etc. The modern stereotypical depictions of the elementals (humanoid figures composed of the elements in question) are actually D&Disms. The gnome appears as a small dark-skinned man wearing mostly brown, the slyph as a beautiful winged woman, the salamander as a small red/orange lizard and the Undine as a beautiful, and generally wet, unwinged woman. At least when they chose/were force to come into physical manifestation.

And just because somebody mentioned Golem, the golem is a figure from old hebrew legend. The one in the legend was made of clay. Though I don't remember the details of the story, I know it took it's orders literally, and ran amok. It is animated, at least in part by writing the hebew word Emet (or debt) on it, and deactivated by erasing a character and changing the word to Met (dead). (note: I'm not 100% sure of the hebrew words or their translations, I'm trying to remember a legend I last heard over a year ago, and I don't actually know any hebrew)

You'll notice that the word is written on the golem's arm in the game... I know I was impressed that they remembered to put that in.

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I already explained it. A Rune Blade is any blade with ruens etched on the sword, usually giving it magical abilities which is why it is used in so many RPGs

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Kris knive came from South East Asia, but the most popular kris knive came from Java island. During Majapahit Empire It's lenght about 35-80 cm, mainly used for combat, and straight edged. After the fall of this empire, the Java kingdom ( used to be a part of the empire ) use this knive for religious ceremony than for battle, they starting to create waves and decorate for this knive and from now on it's lenght reduced about 25-40 cm. this knive made by combining two difrent metal ( I only know one stronger, the other one weaker ), the stronger metal wraped by the weaker metal then forged with choracoal ( the javanese don't use coal until dutch arival in 16th century )

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I have addressed the Hoplite stuff before, Hoplites were Greek militia, they used Spear, shields, and heavy armor and used a formation called Phalanx.

As for the Griever and Destroyer, Destroyer was made up, the name ''Griever'' was taken from Final Fantasy 8.

Actually Luminaire, it does make sense that Rune Blade and Nodachi (basically same idea as katana but larger) are stronger but not bastard sword, I agree with you. I have never seen an actual Wakizashi so I don't know if it is long enough to be a sword or not. Also, Katana's could be used 2 handed, unless you are strong it is awkard with one hand, believe me, I own 2 of them.

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Banded Mail was part of the Armor worn by Roman Legionaries and a Katana could be used in one hand. In fact the Wakizashi is it's companion blade. In ancient Japan only a Samurai could wear the two together.

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To some extent i agree that's true that Nodachis were the same as Katanas. Nodachis were originally used to kill horses and were not a respected weapon even after they were taken to the use of killing people. Since no respectable samurai would wield it the quality that was put into the making of a Nodachi was far less than that of the Katana. Master swordsmiths forged exceptionally well made Katanas and Wakizashis, which came as a longsword shortsword pair fro Samurai. Normal soldiers or mercenaries who were prohibited by law to own that pair (If i'm not mistaken they could own either one but not the other) could opt to buy Nodachis since they were both longer and cheaper than any subquality Katana they could get.
I've read a lot about Samurai and unless I'm wrong the smaller size of the Katana would also provide an advantage over the longer blade of the Nodachi. Jubei Yagyu and Musashi were considered the greatest swordsmen of all time and they opted to use the Katana. Even given if a Nodachi was made as well as a good Katana the smaller blade would provide more versatility in the hands of a skilled swordman. That's why the greatest swordsmen of Japan used Katanas since Nodachis required far less finesse (remember it was designed to kill horses).
My point is this: Nodachis were the weapon of choice for any old regular infantry due to its larger size. For very skilled, however, practictioners the Katana was better also due to the Nodachi's larger size.
Ashley who has a habit of destroying Dragons should be able to wield a Katana single-handedly and should have the skill to render it more dangerous than a Nodachi.
Secondly, I'm not disrespecting you, Maximus, But the Katanas that were made in that time were probably betterbalanced than those available today. So th ones available to Ashley would probably better made than the ones you own. =)

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For Luminaire,

Wakizashis are not used as daggers. Daggers are for thugs and hold no value.

Wakizashis are a symbolic sword. A samurai is to have his sword everywhere he goes. Because a sword is his pride and that is where the saying ''a samurai is never without his sword'' comes from. So the wakizashi is the sword he carries everywhere because the katana is not to be carried into the house of a daimyo or any other superior.

An exception to when a samurai can use the wakizashi is that he has to commit seppuku and the circumstances are not right for him to go through a formal seppuku ceremony, where a traditional seppuku knife is used.

Certain famous samurais like Saigo Takamori and Toyotomi Hideyoshi have been known to never unsheath their wakizashis.

So please don't casually say it can be used as a dagger.

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ive done alittle research on japanese swords, since i myself have several.
Wakazashi=translated means short sword, its basically a katana but shorter, and could be carried anywhere with the samari
Katana=translated sword*not sure, just a guess*
and i dont think its a nodochi, its a tachi*forgot spellins* but a tachi is basically a katana but longer, meaning tachi means long sword.

Oh and Damacus steel IS OR HAS an orange tint to it, thats because of the way its made.
someone talked about someother type of metal but i forgot it, but i know of another one, that was thought to be made from witchcraft, and smiths that used it/worked with it were killed, the metal is called Living Steel. supposidly it gives off some kind of aura, and today there is only one person that still uses Living Steel, and these swords are not cheap. the maker is Angelswords...
ok thats enough talking from me.

So apparently theres a King of Fighters movie

The_Real_Crunk — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:58:15 GMT

And its comming out in september and it looks like ass.

The Tekken movie, which is also supposed to be coming out this year, on the other hand, looks awesome.

Community News - 7/30/2010

Valkysas — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 03:40:40 GMT

Still working on the contest games. There's only five, but I take a couple days off between them, so I can judge them fairly.

RPG Maker

RPGM2, or RPGM3? - Simple man can't figure it out for himself.
Max Drives are available here - As discovered and posted by Rodak in the above topic.
Frail - 1ce's new game, just announced last week, is either being put on hold or cancelled.
Josh's Adventure - Is running out of scenario space.
Broken Sky - TriggerHound had a case of "Map Envy", but is over it now.
Black Ribbon - Karr is playing the easier version, and people are discussing it, and stuff.
Princess Rescue - Videos of 1ce's first RPGM3 game.
Cifer: The Awakening - Some stuff about titles
Crystal Shores - Karr continues his adventures with trying to use the multiple system card trick.
Speedy RPG Idea - Duel talks about two games he's deciding between making for the contest.

General

We're getting Anniversary Pens!
Magus grumps about Metroid.
Talkin' about Black Dynamite
Mobile version of the Pavilion is brought up, quickly forgotten.
Talking about budget games.
Still talking about our games of the year so far, as we will be doing for the rest of the year, and the beginning of the next, and..
Talking about games we want to happen, but never will.
Den's FFX Flash has storyboards posted.
Rick is making a sequel to one of his book.
Starcraft 2. It's kind of a thing.

(By Highwind / Juliusbloop.com)

THOOOORRRRRRR

The_Real_Crunk — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:23:46 GMT

Trailers out~

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe6...r-1_shortfilms

ACE:R

The_Real_Crunk — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:00:27 GMT

Goddamn, everytime one of these games comes out I get ****** because they will never see the light of day over here.

:drool

Games that you'd like to see but will (most likely) never be...

Dallas Alvis — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:50:24 GMT

Basically, this thread is about "what-if" or "dream" games that you'd personally like to see made, but due to certain restraints (time, money, corperate mumbo-jumbo, etc.), they will more than likely never come to pass.

The only thing that comes to mind is another Shadowrun game. Its kind of sad when the last solid, fun title can be dated back to the early to mid 90s.

d2king10's birthday

Valkysas — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:44:59 GMT

Honk, sir.

RPG Maker Pavilion 10th Anniversary Pensplosion

RPGD — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:01:22 GMT

In case any of you haven't heard, I'm giving away special pens to commemorate our 10th anniversary. These will be Fisher Space Pens (those fancy ones that can write at any angle, in zero gravity, underwater, on wet or dry surfaces and in extreme temperatures) engraved with Pavilion usernames and registration numbers. You can check them out here.

These pens will go out to our veteran members who've been part of this community since at least the EZboard days. I will also be distributing a limited number of pens to newer members on a first come, first serve basis.

If you're interested, please reply to this thread with "green things" or some variation thereof.

Sharkport.

simple man — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:53:16 GMT

I found a shark port for like 7 bucks, should i get it or buy rpg maker 3???

Happy potential birthday to Porkchop's new kid!

Adrian Foley — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:27:58 GMT

... As I've last heard, it was being a stubborn punk and couldn't make up his mind on whether to be born or not.

Rpg maker 2 or rpg maker 3?

simple man — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:24:40 GMT

I cant find 3 so i need to get a copy, would 2 or 3 be better?

Karim B-day

Valkysas — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:27:29 GMT

Happy Birthday, lurkerlady.