Stories with holes

[Perversion]

This game is better if you have a group of people sitting around in real life, but I'm going to attempt to get it going here. The object of the game is simple. I tell you a sentence or two "story" and you ask me yes or no questions to try to figure out the answer.

I'll start with this one....

A man is found dead by the side of the road with a pack on his back.

Now the object is you have to figure out the missing details of the story to figure out why the man died. Remember, you can only ask questions that I can answer with a yes or no. Occasionally, my answer might be that "it doesn't matter for the sake of the story," meaning you can forget about that line of questioning. Build your questions on what is already known, and you might figure it out more quickly. I want to try to make this a collaborative effort between everyone who posts. If you figure out the correct answer, you get a cookie.


Start asking questions!

[irate giraffe]

Is the road in a desert?

[hitogoroshi]

Is he on the left side of the road?

[Shard]

Did he have a symbiotic relationship with his backpack?

[Caciss]

Is the pack at all related to his death?

[Perversion]

atreides: Doesn't matter.

Hito: Doesn't matter.

Shard:You are assuming something.

Caciss: Yes.

[Hyper Dingo]

Usually people dont want to hear my stories about holes.

[Caciss]

Can we stay on topic for once, Dingo, and not bring in the sexual crap?

Are there items in his backpack?

[Perversion]

Caciss:You are assuming the same thing Shard was...but yes, there is something in his PACK.

[Caciss]

Are there multiple items?

[Phoenix]

Is the "pack" a backpack?

[irate giraffe]

Is there a PS3 in his pack?

[Perversion]

Caciss:No
Phoenix:No
Atreides:No

[irate giraffe]

Does the way the pack is on his back indicate that he was carrying it before dying?

[Shard]

I assumed the pack was his, in fact it was not. Did the pack fall out of an airplane and kill the man on impact?

[hitogoroshi]

Haha, nice, shard probably got it. I was just checking to make sure he wasn't killed by a car.
But just in case, is the pack a fanny pack?

[Perversion]

atreides:Yes
Shard:You assumed that the pack was a backpack, which it was not. The pack is indeed his. As for your question, YES, the pack fell out of a plane, but NO, "IT" did not kill the man on impact.
Hito:No, it's not a fanny pack.

[irate giraffe]

Caciss:You are assuming the same thing Shard was...but yes, there is something in his PACK.

I just reread this, which I believe implies that the pack was his, eh? If so i take back my last question.

[irate giraffe]

Oh so, the pack was on his back when he fell out out of the plane? Was it a parachute that didn't open? Did he wrongly assume it was a parachute? Was he kicked off the plane without a parachute?

[Perversion]

You guessed it atreides. The "pack" on his back was a parachute that didn't open, and he died on impact with the ground. The "by the side of the road" thing was just there to throw people off track a bit.

I seem to have gotten a good response to this thread, so I'll try to do this again in a few days. I've got many, many of these stories with holes, and I hope to try another one soon.

[irate giraffe]

Yeah, that was way fun. I was hitting refresh like every 15 seconds. My manager has been eyeballing my computer for the last 20 minutes or so.

[Perversion]

Okay, I'm going to be here for a while longer, so I'll give you another one, but I can't guarantee I'll be here at the computer lab until someone solves it...

Two men are found dead in a cabin in the middle of the woods.

[Shard]

Was it a murder/suicide pact?

[Perversion]

No.

[hitogoroshi]

Was it the police who found them?

[Perversion]

It doesn't matter who found them, really.

[hitogoroshi]

Alright.

Did the woods have trees? (It could be a town name, eh?)

[Perversion]

Yes, the woods have trees.

[Jamos' Old Account]

They both shot and killed each other during a fire fight... probably not.

I know! Dick Cheney went hunting with them! :thumbs

[Perversion]

Incorrect on both accounts.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Were there any large animals in the area?

[Perversion]

No.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Was it foul play?

Did they actually die in the cabin or were they placed there?

[Perversion]

You need to try to ask questions I can answer yes or no to, and that last one I would have to answer with something other than a yes or no.

But to answer your question, yes, they died in the cabin, and no, they were not placed there after they were dead.

EDIT:No, there was no foul play.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Oops, sorry...

Were they ill?

[Perversion]

If you are asking if they were ill before they died, no they were not.

[Pagerron]

Did they eat something while in the cabin that may have caused their deaths?

[Jamos' Old Account]

Did they die of old age?

[Perversion]

Pagerron:No.
Vessel:No.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Did the cabin collapse?

[DYRE]

Is this in the book of lateral thinking puzzles that I have? Just kidding. Anyway, did these two men die from poisoning of any kind?

[Perversion]

Vessel:In a manner of speaking, yes it did.
DYRE:No, they did not die from poison.

[Pagerron]

Had their been a flood filling the cabin with water, which caused them to drown?

[Perversion]

No, there was no flood, and they did not drown.

[Shard]

Was this cabin in the middle of the woods the cabin to an aircraft? And was it the very same aircraft the fellow on the road had failed to parachute to safety from?

DUN DUN DUNNNN...

[DYRE]

Was it a bloody death?
EDIT: Damnit, Shard, I remember the puzzle now. I think you're right. Well, let's see what Perversion has to say...

[Perversion]

Shard:As a matter of fact, it WAS the cabin to an aircraft. The two men were the pilots, and the airplane crashed. Although, it was not necessarily the same plane the other guy parachuted from, but it could have been.

[DYRE]

So, will there be another? If not, s'okay.
EDIT:Perversion, that's your 1337th post. Don't you feel 'leet'?

[Perversion]

Well, I really wanted to do some laundry, but I guess if I have a bunch of people posting questions, we can get through another one pretty quickly....

This is the first one that was ever told to me:

A man lives on the 30th floor of an apartment building. He wakes up in the morning, gets dressed, gets on the elevator, goes to the first floor, and goes out to work. At night he comes home alone, gets on the elevator, goes to the 15th floor, then gets off and takes the stairs the rest of the way.

This one requires a bit of suspension of disbelief, I'll say that right off the bat. But it was the first one I was ever told, so I'll present it to you.

EDIT:I do indeed feel "leet." I'm going to go smoke a cigarette, so I'll be right back.

[DYRE]

He is a dwarf, and he can only reach the elevator buttons for floors 15 and under.

[JPS]

He is a dwarf, and he can only reach the elevator buttons for floors 15 and under.

Yeah Ive heard this one before also:)

[Pagerron]

Does he get in his exercise by walking the final fifteen floors every day? LOL. Oh nevermind.

[Perversion]

Cheaters!!!! You already knew the answer!


Okay, try this one:

A little girl is thrashing about in the middle of the ocean, and yet no one lifts a finger to help her.

[DYRE]

Is she on a boat?

[Jamos' Old Account]

Because no one else is there?

[Perversion]

DYRE:Yes, she is on a boat....I guess this one is too easy. You are very close to solving it.
Vessel:There are people around.

[hitogoroshi]

Shes having a temper tantrum?

[Perversion]

Hito:No, no temper tantrum.

[DYRE]

EDIT: I have no idea, then.

[Perversion]

...

[Jamos' Old Account]

Is she eating at the buffet?

[Perversion]

No, she is not eating at the buffet.

[JPS]

is she physically confined in any way?

[Perversion]

No, she's moving about freely.

Okay, I'll give you this one, as you've already guessed she is on a boat and that is for the most part the answer. She's in the swimming pool on a cruise ship, and is splashing around in the water.

I guarantee unless you already know the answer to this next one, you will not get it in one guess.

A man is walking down the street, and walks past a restaurant. He looks at the menu, and sees that they serve turtle soup. He thinks to himself that he has not had turtle soup for many years, so decides to go and order a bowl of it. He takes one sip of it and runs out onto the street and throws himself into an oncoming bus.

Once again, a little suspension of disbelief.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Swimming in the boat's swimming pool?

[Perversion]

There ya go!

[JPS]

Does he intentionally throw himself into harms way?

[Perversion]

Yes.

[DYRE]

No, she's moving about freely.

Okay, I'll give you this one, as you've already guessed she is on a boat and that is for the most part the answer. She's in the swimming pool on a cruise ship, and is splashing around in the water.

I guarantee unless you already know the answer to this next one, you will not get it in one guess.

A man is walking down the street, and walks past a restaurant. He looks at the menu, and sees that they serve turtle soup. He thinks to himself that he has not had turtle soup for many years, so decides to go and order a bowl of it. He takes one sip of it and runs out onto the street and throws himself into an oncoming bus.

Once again, a little suspension of disbelief.
I know the answer....
The man, his wife, and a second man were in a ship that was wrecked on a desert island. The man's wife died in the wreck. When there was no food left, the second man brought what he said was turtle soup but was really part of the dead wife. Later they were rescued, and at some point, the first man decides to order turtle soup at a restaurant. It tastes nothing like what he was told was turtle soup on the island, which makes him realize he really ate his wife. Unable to cope with the realization, he kills himself.

[Perversion]

Come on, Dyre....if you already know the answers, you shouldn't ruin the game for everyone else...:p

[hitogoroshi]

Thanks for the minifying, but I already saw.
Give us the next, and DYRE, just post SPOILER if it's not a guess.

[JPS]

Edited out website

someone else knows the answer, you just copied and pasted word for word:|

[DYRE]

*URL Removed*
someone else knows the answer, you just copied and pasted word for word:|

It was just to save time typing.

[hitogoroshi]

Are you SEARCHING for answers and posting them?
You sinner.

[Perversion]

Hmmph!!!

[Jamos' Old Account]

A man jumps down a well.

GO!!! :p

[Perversion]

Okay, one last one before I head home for the night...

Keep in mind, suspension of disbelief.

And please, if you already know the answer, please do not post it.

If he had seen the sawdust, he'd still be alive today.

[JPS]

Just come up with a storyline perversion and post your own stories, that way no one can search for answers:)

Edit: A tool involved im assuming?

[Perversion]

Unfortunately, JPS, these things take a little bit of work to put together, and make them work out logically.


Edit:Please rephrase your guess in the form of a question. What about a tool?

[JPS]

Ill rephrase it more specifically

Was a tool the means of his demise?

[DYRE]

Are you SEARCHING for answers and posting them?
You sinner.

Nope.

[Perversion]

JPS:No.

Edit: Do you know this one Dyre?

[Jamos' Old Account]

Did this guy have allergies?

[Perversion]

Vessel:Nope.

[JPS]

is he dead?

I know its obvious but could be a play on the words

[Jamos' Old Account]

Did something fall on him?

[DYRE]

I do not know this one, in fact. Anyway, is the man blind? deaf?

[Perversion]

JPS: Yes, he's actually dead.
Vessel:No, nothing fell on him.
DYRE:Yes, he is blind.

[JPS]

was it the sawdust that killed him?

[Perversion]

JPS:No, the sawdust did not kill him.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Did he fall to his death?

[JPS]

wow, this is a tough one...

did his death have to do with contact of wood or wood products in any way?

[Perversion]

Vessel:No, he did not fall to his death.
JPS:If you are trying to ask if anything wood-related DIRECTLY killed him, then, no, it did not.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Did my head just explode? :explosion

[JPS]

thats what I was asking:)

Im completely out of questions, I am completely lost on this....hmm

Did he die by fire-sustained injuries?

[Perversion]

No fire sustained injuries were incurred.
If you are out of questions, you do not have to keep guessing. If people post in this later tonight or tomorrow, I'll post the answers when I get on the computer next. It looks like everyone else who was playing the game logged off, so no biggie.

The most successful thread in my forum....YAY!

[DYRE]

It looks like everyone else who was playing the game logged off, so no biggie.


I didn't. But, I wasn't really playing, after being accused of using performance-enhancing websites (I'm innocent, I swear).

[Perversion]

:)

Well, you DID guess that he was blind...anything you want to ask after that?

BTW, I can tell that you've played these before, because you tend to ask really good questions.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Was this guy a carpentor?

[Perversion]

No, he was not a carpenter.

[JPS]

did he die from internal injuries(i.e. swallowing?)

I didn't. But, I wasn't really playing, after being accused of using performance-enhancing websites (I'm innocent, I swear).
I just found it odd that answer was on 6 websites word for word of what you typed, which for a paragraph so long is kind of unlikely, but anyways its fine:)

[Perversion]

The method of his death is actually irrelevant to the story. The manner in which he died (accident, suicide, murder) is more important.

EDIT:Please do not look up the answer on that website, because, sure enough, it's on there.

[JPS]

ok

was his death a direct result of his own actions?

[Perversion]

Yes.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Was it because of negligence?

[JPS]

Yes.

yay for me! finally got one!

so he was blind and killed himself...

was it suicide?

[Perversion]

Vessel:His death was not out of negligence.
JPS:Yes, he committed suicide.

[JPS]

if he saw the sawdust coming, hed still be alive today

he didnt see the sawdust because he was blind, he committed suicide, but the sawdust or wood products werent directly related to the death, which means that he killed himself before the sawdust reached him, which means he must have owned a business....

EDITED OUT SOME

did he hang himself?

[Perversion]

He did not own a business, but his profession is a key to the answer.
And it does not matter how he killed himself, he just simply killed himself.

Okay, I've got to get going in a few minutes here (the computer lab is closing really soon), so if anyone wants to post questions after I leave, I'll answer them tomorrow (I hope). If people lose interest in this topic in the meantime, I guess I'll just post the answer later. Anyway, thanks for playing, and thanks for the kind words in the "What do you think about^" thread, JPS.:)

[JPS]

Was he a lumberjack?:lol

[DYRE]

Was another person involved at all?

[Perversion]

JPS:No.
DYRE:Yes.

[DYRE]

Did the man know there was another person?

[Perversion]

No.

[DYRE]

Would he not have killed himself if he knew?

[Perversion]

Yes, he would not have killed himself if he had known.

[irate giraffe]

Did he kill himself because he thought he hurt someone, and the sawdust would have been an indication that he was mistaken?

[Perversion]

No. He did not think he hurt someone, and the sawdust was not an indication of hurting someone either.

[DYRE]

Would the sawdust have been an indication that someone was there?

[IRC]

You're dumbing these down so it takes longer for people to guess them.

Was some kind of animal involved?

[JPS]

was the "someone else" related to him?

[Perversion]

DYRE:Yes, the sawdust would have indicated someone else was there.
IRC:No animals were involved, least of all cows.
JPS:If in "related," you mean a relative or member of his family, no. If by "related," you mean someone he knew, then yes.

[DYRE]

Did he kill himself becuase he thought someone else had died?

[Perversion]

No. I've got to leave in about ten minutes, and will probably be back on tomorrow after 3 pm for at least an hour.

[JPS]

Ill kick it up a notch and ask 2 questions since this one is taking a large amount of time...:lol

Was the person his girlfriend or wife and was the reason he killed himself because of something she had done?

[Perversion]

No to both of your questions...

[JPS]

ouch

was the place he died his workplace and was the person one of his co-workers?

[Perversion]

You are correct on both accounts, sir.

[JPS]

Did he kill himself over something that co-worker did to him?

[Perversion]

Yes...in a sense. The other person did not do something directly to his person, but to something he is affiliated with, yes.

[JPS]

did his coworker sleep with his g/f/wife?:lol

[Perversion]

No.

[JPS]

Did the coworker have sawdust on him when he was approaching the guy that committed suicide?

wow i suck, ive been doing this for like 4-5 pages:lol

[Perversion]

You do not suck...you are actually asking good questions.

The co-worker never had sawdust on him or with him at any point in time. The co-worker did come in contact with the sawdust however.

[JPS]

Is this true so far?


A tool did not kill him
Nothing fell on him
Did not fall to his death
Sawdust did not kill him
Anything wood-related did not kill him
No fire sustained injuries were incurred.
His death was a direct result of his own actions?
He committed suicide
His death was not out of negligence.
The man did not know there was another person involved
He would not have killed himself if he had known about the other person
He did not think he hurt someone
The sawdust was not an indication of hurting someone either.
No allergies
He is blind
He was not a carpenter
He did not own a business
His profession is a key to the answer.
Another person was involved
The sawdust would have indicated someone else was there.
No animals were involved, least of all cows.
No family involved
Co-worker was involved
He did not kill himself becuase he thought someone else had died
He died at his workplace
The other person did not do something directly to this person, but to something he is affiliated with
The co-worker never had sawdust on him or with him at any point in time.
The co-worker did come in contact with the sawdust however.

Wow thats a lot now that I put it all in one post

[Perversion]

Wow! You scoured the entire thread for answers and posted them in one convenient place...:lol Yes, everything you have posted is true.

[JPS]

Yep, I didnt want to start repeating questions or making irrevelant or contradictory questions

Did the co-worker come in contact with the sawdust at the time of the suicide?

[Perversion]

The co-worker came into contact with the sawdust before the suicide, but, and I'll give you one here, but what caused the sawdust directly resulted in his suicide.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Man, this is a tricky one.

Was he blinded by the sawdust?... Aah, I got noth'n.

[Perversion]

For the sake of the story, he was born blind.

[JPS]

Did the man purposely put himself in harms way by using a machine used to cut or shape wood in order to successfully commit suicide?

EDIT TO ADD
Is the phrase you gave "If he saw the sawdust, he'd still be alive today" a play on words in any way?

[Perversion]

The "he" in the story in no way did anything to cause the sawdust to be created. And no, it's not a play on words.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Does the guy work at a saw mill?

[Perversion]

No.

[JPS]

was the suicide intentional or accidental?

[Perversion]

:lol Don't mean to laugh, but I never heard of an accidental suicide before...so the answer is intentional.

[JPS]

:lol Don't mean to laugh, but I never heard of an accidental suicide before...so the answer is intentional.

neither have I but Im a bit confused that the thing that caused his suicide made the sawdust but if he had seen the sawdust he wouldnt have committed suicide, which makes it seem like it was an accident, if you see where I'm coming from

He was blind and his profession was a key to the suicide....but what do blind people do for a living?

Was one of the reasons he killed himself was because he was blind?

EDIT TO ADD
An accidental suicide is of you were standing in a chair and tied a noose around your neck and was about to jump then decided not to, that you still had a whole life ahead of you, but when you went to take the noose off one of the legs on the chair broke and you died:lol

[Jamos' Old Account]

Maybe he accidently slit his wrists, then forgot he was bleeding...:lol

Anyway, was the guy mentally ill?

[Perversion]

The thing that caused his suicide DID NOT make the sawdust. Remember, it does not matter how he committed suicide, he just did.

He did not kill himself because he was blind, but if he had his sight, he would not have killed himself. In fact, if he was not blind, there would not have been any sawdust in the first place (hint).

Vessel:No, the man was sane.

[JPS]

but what caused the sawdust directly resulted in his suicide.

The thing that caused his suicide DID NOT make the sawdust.

I dont get it....

so exactly what are we determining? the events that led up to his death?

Was there more then 2 people involved?

[Perversion]

The event that caused the sawdust led to him killing himself, but the method in which the sawdust was created did not kill him. Remember, the method of his death is not important. He just killed himself, and that's all that matters.

I have a feeling the answer is going to be a let-down, or be a complete WTF moment. *sigh*

EDIT:Only two people were involved.

EDIT TWO:Try to ask questions about his profession and about how the sawdust was created...you might get further if you question along those lines.

EDIT THREE:Are you still on AIM, JPS?

[JPS]

I have a feeling the answer is going to be a let-down, or be a complete WTF moment. *sigh*

I hope not with 7 pages worth of guesses and all the time Ive spent on my days off when I could have been making my game:|:lol

Im totally lost on this one...:(

Does his profession allow him to perform his duties precisely and without a problem even though he is blind?

[Perversion]

YES!

[JPS]

YES!

was he performing his job duties at the place of his death?

[Red Dragon]

Was he by any chance a beggar at a sawmill?

[JPS]

Was he by any chance a beggar at a sawmill?

:lol yeah his co-worker was a beggar also and got more change then him, which led to him killing himself

[Perversion]

A sawmill was in no way involved.

Yes, he was performing his duties at the place of his death.

Not quite guys...

[JPS]

was he employed by the place he was performing his duties at or by an outside job?

[Perversion]

He was employed by the place, yes.

[JPS]

Was he specially trained for the job he had?

[Perversion]

no

[JPS]

Was he a janitor?...

[Perversion]

No.

[JPS]

machine operator?

Im just guessing now...lol

[Perversion]

No...as a hint, no labor is involved in his job

[JPS]

Could all of his job be done sitting down?

[Perversion]

It could be, but it's more effective if he stands

[JPS]

supervisor?

[Perversion]

No. I'll be on tomorrow to continue this.

[JPS]

ok

well i didnt make much progress tonight:|

does he do office work? inspector?

[Perversion]

No and no.

[JPS]

well what else can you do....hmmm

Is this a modern-day-work-setting? and does he have a job that is common for the era that this took place?

[Perversion]

This story could take place today, but the job is not very common.

[JPS]

That helps me out a lot, especially when I thought this story took place in the early 1900's:lol

does he work in a manufacturing facility?

[Perversion]

No.

[JPS]

now we're getting somewhere....:lol

a hardware store?

[Perversion]

He had to manipulate nothing for his job. Nothing manual was required. This includes cutting wood in a hardware store and running a cash register at a hardware store.

[JPS]

was he a greeter or customer service rep?

[Perversion]

Ok...I can see this is getting nowhere fast, so I'll tell you that he's a performer of sorts....

[JPS]

We've been getting nowhere for the last 8 pages :lol

Does he work at a circus? Theatre?

[Perversion]

Yes (circus)...no (theatre).

My gf wants me to getoff of her computer, as she is quite bored watching me type all this, so now that you are getting somewhere, I'll let you have time to think about it, and be back on tomorrow sometime around 5-6 pm...although I know JPS probably will not be on then, as he has a twelve hour workday ahead of him. :)

[Jamos' Old Account]

Is he a clown?

[JPS]

did his suicide happen during a live performance in front of an audience?

[Perversion]

He's not a clown per se, and his suicide happened "backstage," not in front of an audience.

[JPS]

Was the suicide planned? A spur of the moment thing?

[Perversion]

The suicide was not planned.

[JPS]

Was the other person involved superior to his position in the circus?(helps me find out his motives for suicide)

I cannot believe this is taking soooooo long

[Perversion]

Not a superior, but a co-worker (if you will).

As for motives for the suicide, concentrate on the sawdust, as not seeing it directly resulted in the suicide. As another hint (as you cannot believe how long this is taking), think of something one with his handicap might have that one could create sawdust out of.

[JPS]

The sawdust came into contact with the co-worker at one point, I'm assuming after the suicide, and the guy committed suicide over something his co-worker did indirectly to him, and the sawdust didnt directly kill him, but the object that created the sawdust did...right?

Was the man a magician in the circus? Thats the only thing I figure a blind man can do

[Perversion]

The sawdust came into contact with the co-worker BEFORE the suicide.
The object that caused the sawdust did not kill him; it just created the sawdust. And if he had seen the sawdust, he would not have killed himself.

No, he was not a magician at the circus.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Was he a sword eater?

[Perversion]

Not a sword eater...

[Lantis]

He wasn't a professional lumberjack at a competition, was he?

[Perversion]

No, Lantis, he works at a circus.

[Lantis]

Heh, sorry. I took "No, he was not a magician at the circus" the wrong way.

Were there animals involved?

[JPS]

Lantis, you should review the last 10 or so pages:) All of those questions has already been asked, mostly by me:lol

No animals were involved

Ive been stuck on this story for at least a week:lol Any help I can get on this is appreciated, I'm stuck and cant think of anything else to ask

[Jamos' Old Account]

Anwser:

He was a chainsaw juggler practicing his act when his assistant made him trip. A chainsaw cut off his foot, because he couldn't handle the pain, he decided to end it all. The end!

Okay, that isn't really the anwser, but I give up.

[Lantis]

I doubt he was a juggler seeing as no training was involved for his possition in the circus. I was thinking that maybe he was a ticket seller, but the fact that he's blind means it would be in his best interest to be working with money. Then maybe he could be the ring leader... but then he wouldn't have "co-workers" but "employees".

Was he a fortune teller?

[Perversion]

Not a fortune teller.

As a hint, his "job" required little more than to stand in one place and be himself.

[Chuck]

Was he an assistant to an act?

If so, was the other person the main performer of the act?

As another hint (as you cannot believe how long this is taking), think of something one with his handicap might have that one could create sawdust out of.

Was the sawdust the remains of his cane?

EDIT: I really wish I had found this topic sooner. For the first one I would've asked if the "pack" was a pack of wild animals. :lol and for the second after you said it was an aircraft cabin I would've asked if either of the men was named Yemi, just to be stupid.

[Perversion]

He was not an assistant.
There were others with him when he did his "job."
Yes, the sawdust came from his cane.

[Lantis]

Was he some form of announcer?

[IRC]

I could have sworn there were termites involved in this. Damn I want to ruin it because you're making this purpusely vague so as to drag it out.

[JPS]

Its been drug out for 13 pages and hes been giving us more then "yes" and "no" as was previously stated he would do:lol

[Perversion]

Mr IRC...I'm trying to make this as straightforward as possible, but it's hard to give clues without giving the whole thing away. Just to let you know, in real life, it took a group of 4-5 people an hour and a half to figure this out. This is the hardest one I know, besides the turtle soup one that DYRE ruined.

No Lantis, he was not an announcer.

[JPS]

Did his act involve answering what he think something is?

[Perversion]

No. To make this more specific, his act involved nothing but standing there.

EDIT:If you do not have to work tonight, JPS, if you want to chat for a bit I'm on AIM right now.

[JPS]

so he was blind and he just stands there...hmm

Was he one of the attractions at the circus?
Was he a behind-the-stage employee, meaning he is never seen by the people?
Was his co-worker setting something up at the time of the suicide?

[Perversion]

His co-worker did something to cause the sawdust (which we determined came from his cane) before the suicide.

He was not backstage, as the customers paid to see him (along with others like him).

[Pagerron]

so he and his coworker were kind of like side-show freaks at the circus?

[Perversion]

Indeed.

[Pagerron]

Not that that helps very much! :) Your "customers paid to see him" was a good clue for me on this one.

Okay, so he's a blind side show person who has a cane that his co-worker caused him to use to produce sawdust before this blind side show person's suicide (which the general public did not see). Right?

Were he and his co-worker different kinds of side-show acts, or did they just happen to work together?

[Perversion]

He and his co-worker were from the same act.

[Pagerron]

Was his co-worker blind also?

And, were there other co-workers in this same side-show act or just the two?

[Perversion]

His co-worker was not blind.
There were others in the act.

[Pagerron]

Did other co-workers come into contact with the sawdust too?

[Perversion]

They might have, but probably not. It honestly does not really matter for the sake of the story.

As a hint, in case you were not already thinking along these lines, you might want to figure out what kind of freak he was....

[Pagerron]

I was thinking full-body tattoo guy. I have no idea why I was thinking that, and that doesn't seem to have any relation to anything, but why not?

[JPS]

Was his co-worker deaf?
Was he really old?

I dont know if that matters or not

[Perversion]

Not a tattoo guy.
His co-worker was not deaf.
He might have been really old, but for the sake of the story, it doesn't matter.

[Pagerron]

Was he the bearded lady?

[Perversion]

I do not know if that was a joke, but no HE was not the bearded LADY.

[Pagerron]

I'm just trying to think of side-show acts. Was he the Elephant Man?

[Perversion]

No.

Okay, even though I said earlier that this was set in the modern day, it might make this a bit more believable to be set in times past....freak shows are really un-PC nowadays you know.

[Pagerron]

Yeah, I know that for sure.

Was he part of a group of fire-breathers?

[Perversion]

No....remember, he did not have to do any action besides stand there.

[Pagerron]

Did the co-worker do the same thing, just stand there too?

[Perversion]

Yes.

Actually, sorry Page, but I'm going to have to get going here. The computer lab closes in ten minutes. My internet time is going to be cut off on the 15th for about a month or so (the computer lab closes down for x-mas), so I hope someone solves it before that. I might still be able to get some Pav time after that when I go to my friend Eric's house or my gf's house. Other than that, my internet time for the next month is going to be very sparse. So solve this quickly people!

[Pagerron]

were they dwarves (little people :) )?

[Perversion]

Indeed....midgets or dwarves, whatever you want to call them. Yes! Finally! You are thisclose to the answer! I'll maybe stay a few extra minutes to see if you can figure it out.

[Pagerron]

Did the co-worker dwarf have a wooden leg that the main dwarf accidentally hit with his cane causing sawdust before it broke, which then caused the co-worker dwarf to fall behind the stage to his death, and then upon hearing the dying words of his friend, the main dwarf followed the voice and unintentionally committed suicide by falling off backstage too?

[Perversion]

Wow...good guess, but no. The main "character"'s suicide was intentional.

Now I've really got to go...computer lab will be closing in like 2 minutes.

I'll try to be back on tomorrow afternoon/evening if anyone else feels like guessing the last little bit.

Oh, and Page, I gave you rep...thanks for joining the festivities albeit late in the game. Depending on how worn down people are from this one, I might do some more. Like I said, this one was definitely one of the hardest ones I was told, so don't feel bad it's taking so long. The rest will be easier.

For now, goodnight, everyone.

[Pagerron]

Hey now, I posted ONCE before :) #37, but that was what 200 posts ago. LOL. This is a tough one. Good night, bro.

[JPS]

Yeah I've racked up quite a bit of posts in here:lol

Im assuming the sawdust would have made him duck or something if he had seen it, human nature, which would have resulted in him missing the object he was killed by, but because he did not see the dust he couldnt duck out of the way, which means the object kept moving and ultimately killed him, you said it was on purpose, so he must have had his cane raised to something he knew was there and was going to intentionally kill himself, but the co-worker played a part so he must have accidently turned the object on or moved it before the time the suicidal dwarf wanted, resulting in a suicide

I'm so lost

and heres my question:
Are there any clues in the above paragraph that has not been given to us yet?

[Perversion]

I don't know what to say, but none of the above paragraph is accurate.

You use the word "object" above as if it has some significance. It does not. I believe we have already determined that the sawdust came from the cane. And we have already determined that the co-worker created the sawdust. For the sake of the story, he used a saw (makes sense, I guess). Now it is up to you to determine how the sawdust that came from the cane would have prevented his suicide had he seen it.

Remember, suspension of disbelief. You are already suspending disbelief a bit when you accept the fact that there is a blind midget in the circus.

You guys are so close, but just skirting around the answer.

[irate giraffe]

He is one of those guys that cuts a guy in half (supposbly). He had the cane on the thing, and thought he cut through the guys neck, killing him. This made him kill himself. If he had seen the sawdust, he would've known he had only cut through the cane, and wouldn't have killed himself.

[JPS]

So his co-worker used the saw on the blind man's cane backstage, if the blind man had seen the sawdust or the co-worker, he would not have committed suicide, but the coworkers action with the saw indirectly resulted in the blind mans suicide, which means if the co-worker never had the saw, the blind man would/couldn't not have committed suicide.....right?

suspension of disbelief....mmmm

Did the co-worker mistaken the cane for something else? and did the blind man have possession of his cane at the time the coworker was sawing on it?

Im going to be severely disappointed if I posted all this and spent all this time on it and someone comes in here and answers it on their first post:|

[Perversion]

Atreides: Thanks for playing, but no.:)

JPS:The co-worker knew what the cane was, and whose it was.
Also, he did not take the cane onstage with him. He left it backstage, which is when the sawing presumably occured.

[Chuck]

Wait, I have an idea. It's a stupid one but at least it fits the clues so far. So, the coworker cuts the dwarfs cane in half. And when he goes to use it he realizes he now has to lean over for his cane to touch the ground. Not realizing his cane is shorter he deduces that he has gotten taller. Believing that he somehow grew to full height means his livelihood as a sideshow dwarf is gone so he kills himself.

Told you it was stupid, but like I said, it's the best I can come up with.

[Perversion]

Yeah, you're so stupid that you figured out the answer...:lol

And yes, JPS, your worst fear for this thread has been realized.

I'll give you both rep as soon as I can, Chuck for getting the correct answer, and JPS for trying his damndest to figure this out and having snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. :lol

[irate giraffe]

I'm just glad that one's finally over.

GIVE US AN EASY ONE:)!

[Perversion]

A man is found dead hanging from a noose in the center of an empty room.

Oh, and atreides, I'm on AIM right now...I was not ignoring you, I was merely enthralled with all the new posts here. Is that a picture of you in your new avatar?

[Jamos' Old Account]

Was it murder?

[Perversion]

We can assume for the sake of the story that it was suicide. The motive for the suicide is unimportant.

[Chuck]

JPS, deserves the rep more than me, I never would've come up with it without his questions. Like when I was asking if he was an assistant, I was thinking maybe his job was standing in front of a target for a knife thrower and the sawdust was from the target or something, or maybe standing betwen chainsaw jugglers. But I didn't know where to go from there. I still can't believe that was the answer but since you kept emphasizing suspension of disbelief I figured I should think way outside the box.

I think I know the answer to this one so I'll just watch.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Was it an assisted suicide?

[Perversion]

No one was in the room with him when he died.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Is it safe to assume, when you say "empty," that there is nothing in the room? (as in no furniture, tools, etc.)

[Perversion]

Completely barren...four walls. That's it.

[Jamos' Old Account]

Okay, thought so.

Is the room small?