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[Marc M.]

A raccoon with a sword!?
BRILLIANT!

[Draygone]

Bah. How anybody can draw with a mouse is beyond me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/Great_Dragon/mousenpaint.bmp

Granted, this was drawn using paint, and I really didn't try too hard. But still, the lines aren't nearly smooth enough. I'll settle for paper and a scanner any day.

[Hedrum]

Yeah...

You need to put more time in there. No offense.

[Marc M.]

and you had the thing for... what? over 2 years?

[Draygone]

Tablets are kinda expensive, though, from what I understand. Not to mention it sounds akward, drawing on the tablet and having the image appear onscreen instead of the tablet. Sounds a bit difficult to remember where on the tablet to draw when you want to connect a line at a certain spot.

You know, I wonder how well I'd be able to redraw that on paper. (Better than this attempt, that's for sure.) Hmm... *runs off to draw*

[Nixon]

Tablets are all well and good, but for me there is no substitute for pen and ink on paper. And drawing with a mouse isn't that great, ever.

Join the caveman artist club!

[Draygone]

Should I do the whole thing on paper, or should I simply do the outlines and refine it on the computer? All I have to do this are the paper, a pencil, a black ink pen, colored pencils (just 12 colors, as I wanted to wait before going into greater color detail), and the basic paint program. I've used those colored pencils before, but I'm not sure how much detail I could add with them; haven't tried adding real detail except once with a regular pencil sketch.

[Nixon]

I don't know what would work better for you, but if you're stuck using paint, you might as well do everything by hand.

If you're not sure on the colored pencils, maybe practice with them on another drawing or sketch and see how that turns out. If you haven't used them for coloring and shading before, the results might not be what you want at first. Getting decent colors with pencils takes a lot of effort, but they can look incredible if you work on it.

[Dreamknight]

Yes, colored pencils have got to be my favorite coloring method (not to say that I use em, just from what I see, I have a really awesome Harley Quinn drawing that's in colored pencil...I gotta buy a set.). And drawing with the mouse is indeed painstaking and horribly tedious, but the best experience I have had comes from treating it like any old drawing at first, start with a framework of some sort (even a deep black stick figure would work since you can just go over it with anything on a computer), then I work my way up from the bottom of the piece to the top.

Unfortunatly, that's only because most of the stuff I've made on the computer are nothing more than either the size of a fighting game sprite (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/CrossKnight/3d5eb8b1.gif) or no more bigger than an AIM icon (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/CrossKnight/021ae96b.bmp) so it's quite possible I'm thinking with a totally different mindset.

PS: For smooth lines, using a higher resolution could work, however you'll have many more pixels to fill!

[Draygone]

I don't mean smooth like that, I mean I couldn't create smooth curves or lines no matter what the screen resolution.

I don't recall ever doing a framework. I'm sure I've done it, but not in recent memory. I just draw the outlines and fill in the rest.

I'll go ahead and use the colored pencils. It'll take a bit of work trying to not make it look messy, but I'll try.

[The_Real_Crunk]

Okay, I got bored. :lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/The_Real_Crunk/Catsmash.jpg

Drawing with a mouse in Paint blows.

[Hyper Dingo]

There are people who only use a mouse, and they use it very well i might add.

[Draygone]

Okay, I finished the drawing. Soon as we figure out how to work this scanner (tomorrow; not enough time today), I'll post it.

...Heh, I'm half-tempted to turn this into a Crappy Paint Drawings topic.:)

[Gustaff 13]

http://www3.telus.net/public/squall/forest.gif

It's always bears with me. Just obsessed with them...

[InfinityDragon]

Tablets are kinda expensive, though, from what I understand. Not to mention it sounds akward, drawing on the tablet and having the image appear onscreen instead of the tablet. Sounds a bit difficult to remember where on the tablet to draw when you want to connect a line at a certain spot.

No, you just need have good hand eye coordination. It's really much better than a mouse. (though I use a mouse when I'm GENERATING graphics. like buttons and stuff)

[Draygone]

Okay, here it is. The color didn't show up as vibrant as the real thing, but I got it as close as I can.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/Great_Dragon/rac_warrior.jpg

I think next time I should use a picture of a raccoon and a picture of a roman warrior for visual reference. Bleh, I suck at helmets and armor.

[Dreamknight]

I do like the sunset, even though it's rather busy. Perhaps you may want to start simpler and work with fewer colors?

[TheHonorableRyu]

Dude! If you're going to use colored pencils, here's rule #1: get out a white colored pencil or one with a lighter version of the same hue and burnish!

[Gustaff 13]

Yes. Sanford makes a colorless blender (http://www.dickblick.com/zz205/08a/products.asp?param=0&ig_id=3820) expressly for that purpose.

[Draygone]

Simpler? How so? I only used 10 colors. And again, I only got 12 colored pencils. I haven't worked with shading yet, either. Most of my art is colorless, some grey added in, or flat-shaded like what's above. This is the second time I've added scenery, and the fourth time I added color.

Don't have a white colored pencil. Actually, I could never figure out the purpose of those things on a white sheet of paper.

[Gustaff 13]

They're for lightening and burnishing, as Ryu said.
See, when you try to shade lightly with a colored pencil, the application will be uneven; the color settles into grooves in the paper's texture.

The purpose of buffing over with blender is to evenly disperse the color without altering the hue by adding a second coat.

[The_Real_Crunk]

When I use colored pencils I press as hard as I can to get every bit of color out of them as I can. I can end up using a quarter of all my pencils on one drawing.

The end result is nice and glossy looking, with nice full colors and no faded paper look.

[Loki]

It's like that series of novels I liked when I was a kid but not anymore.

[Draygone]

What? I'm a big fan of anthro art.

[Gustaff 13]

Four, you say? *rubs chin*

You shouldn't come into a topic just to rag on Dray's interests, what if people disagreed with your boobie girls?

[Draygone]

Ugh, don't remind me. I've seen the type of anthro art some people make.:vomit