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    GOP screws over working poor, again.

    Apparently earning more than $5.15/hr would actually hurt the working poor, as they'd all get fired. The GOP plan to get rid of all the laborers who want to work for $5.15, and then refusal to increase the minimum wage is clearly a well thought-out solution. Maybe we can let children back into the work force to fulfill the short supply of workers, they're cheaper and more docile anyway.


    By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent
    7 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON - The Republican-controlled Senate smothered a proposed election-year increase in the minimum wage Wednesday, rejecting Democratic claims that it was past time to boost the $5.15 hourly pay floor that has been in effect for nearly a decade.

    The 52-46 vote was eight short of the 60 needed for approval under budget rules and came one day after House Republican leaders made clear they do not intend to allow a vote on the issue, fearing it might pass.

    The Senate vote marked the ninth time since 1997 that Democrats there have proposed — and Republicans have blocked — a stand-alone increase in the minimum wage. The debate fell along predictable lines.

    "Americans believe that no one who works hard for a living should have to live in poverty. A job should lift you out of poverty, not keep you in it," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass. He said a worker paid $5.15 an hour would earn $10,700 a year, "almost $6,000 below the poverty line for a family of three."

    Kennedy also said lawmakers' annual pay has risen by roughly $30,000 since the last increase in the minimum wage.

    Republicans said a minimum wage increase would wind up hurting the low-wage workers that Democrats said they want to help.

    "For every increase you make in the minimum wage, you will cost some of them their jobs," said Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga.

    He described the clash as a "classic debate between two very different philosophies. One philosophy that believes in the marketplace, the competitive system ... and entrepreneurship. And secondly is the argument that says the government knows better and that topdown mandates work."

    The measure drew the support of 43 Democrats, eight Republicans and one independent. Four of those eight Republicans are seeking re-election in the fall.

    Democrats had conceded in advance that this attempt to raise the minimum wage would fare no better than their previous attempts. At the same time, they have made clear in recent days they hope to gain support in the coming midterm elections by stressing the issue. Organized labor supports the legislation, and Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., said that contrary to some impressions, most minimum wage workers are adults, not teenagers, and many of them are women.

    "When the Democrats control the Senate, one of the first pieces of legislation we'll see is an increase in the minimum wage," said Kennedy.

    His proposal would have increased the minimum wage to $5.85 beginning 60 days after the legislation was enacted; to $6.55 one year later; and to $7.25 a year after that. He said inflation has eroded the value of the current $5.15 minimum wage by 20 percent.

    With the help of a few rebellious Republicans, House Democrats on the House Appropriations Committee succeeded in attaching a minimum wage increase last week to legislation providing funding for federal social programs. Fearing that the House would pass the measure with the increase intact, the GOP leadership swiftly decided to sidetrack the entire bill.

    "I am opposed to it, and I think a vast majority of our (rank and file) is opposed to it," House Majority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said Tuesday.

    Pressed by reporters, he said, "There are limits to my willingness to just throw anything out on the floor."

    On Wednesday, his spokesman, Kevin Madden, said Boehner has told fellow Republicans "the House will have to deal with this some way." He said no decisions had been made.

    While Democrats depend on organized labor to win elections, Republicans are closely aligned with business interests that oppose any increase in the federal wage floor or would like changes in the current system.

    Sen. Mike Enzi, R-Wyo., chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, offered an alternative that proposed a minimum wage increase of $1.10 over 18 months, in two steps.

    The increase was coupled with a variety of provisions offering regulatory or tax relief to small businesses, including one to exempt enterprises with less than $1 million in annual receipts from the federal wage and hour law entirely. The current exemption level is $500,000, and a Republican document noted the amount had "lagged behind inflation."

    Additionally, Republicans proposed a system of optional "flextime" for workers, a step that Enzi said would allow employees, at their discretion, to work more than 40 hours one week in exchange for more time off the next. Unions generally oppose such initiatives, and the Republican plan drew 45 votes, with 53 in opposition.
    Last edited by Shard; 06-21-2006, 06:43 PM.
    So you're a fish out of water...
    Keep swimming.
    What else can you do?

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    "For every increase you make in the minimum wage, you will cost some of them their jobs," said Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga.
    Not necessarily. You could take it out of profit margins, you greedy ****.

    $5.15 in 2006 dollars is worth $3.57 in 1992 dollars according to the consumer price index.

    So having a minimum wage of $5.15 today is effectively the equivalent of having had a minimum wage of $3.57 in 1992 as far as living standards are concerned. Only 1992 was when the minimum wage was raised to $5.15.

    $5.15 in 1992 dollars is $7.43 in 2006 dollars.

    Raising it to $7/hour wouldn't have even kept up with the inflation rate!

    Personally, I think there should be two standards for minimum wage: one for un-incorporated businesses, and one for incorporated businesses. Small businesses have difficulty meeting the minimum wage requirements, while large businesses could easily pay all their workers at least $20/hour without raising prices, before cutting into half of profits. I'd perhaps eliminate a minimum wage for unincorporated businesses(or keep it at $5.15, but that is bordering on unconstitutional), but keep/raise it for incorporated businesses(since the constitution never gave corporations the protection of individual people).

    Since the 1968, productivity has virtually doubled, but real wages have declined. In theory, real wages should have doubled with the productivity, but it went to profit margins instead. Adjusted for inflation, the minimum wage in 1968 is equivalent to ~$9.50/hour in today's dollars.

    $5.15/hour today is inexcusably low. It is not even enough for basic sustinence living in this country for a family of four.
    The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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      #3
      Re: GOP screws over working poor, again.

      I love the little "flex time" blurb at the bottom. Workers don't want a 40-hr workweek, they want a full-time job with decent pay and benefits. In essence, it allows a worker to put in 40 hour work weeks at alternating part-time jobs for **** pay and no benefits at any of them. What employee is clamoring for this?
      So you're a fish out of water...
      Keep swimming.
      What else can you do?

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        #4
        Re: GOP screws over working poor, again.

        Won't be long before unions are outlawed, at this rate. Not that they're doing much good anymore anyway, with most in large corporations having often been bought by the company whos workers it is supposed to represent.
        The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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          #5
          Re: GOP screws over working poor, again.

          I might have to join one. I don't really care to. From what I have heard they take money out of the paycheck just so you can go on strike when they decide. I always thought that 5.50 was the minimum. I guess I could be wrong. I don't even know if all of the states have different minumum wages or not.
          I was like a Cloud once!!!!

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            #6
            Re: GOP screws over working poor, again.

            Many states do set their own minimum wage. Missouri has $5.15/hour, while Illinois is $6.50/hour, for instance. Oddly enough, groceries and such are actually cheaper in Illinois and jobs far more plentiful than Missouri...

            Minimum wage has little to do with job availability. Job availability has everything to do with how many people the companies want to hire, and most companies want to hire as few as they can for a given amount of work and pay the employees as little as possible. It's about profit maximization, NOT providing jobs or products/services.

            Look at the recent economic 'boom'. Even despite this 'good' economy, the living standard and purchasing power parity of those making under $100k a year is slipping rapidly. All the benefits are going to those on top, the benefits aren't being distributed.(Of course, outside the realm of this topic, most of this economic 'boom' has been caused by saturating this country with more printed money and with deficet spending, which will become a very big problem in the future.)
            Last edited by The Toecutter; 06-21-2006, 09:24 PM.
            The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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              #7
              Re: GOP screws over working poor, again.

              Republicans are all evil! The world is coming to an end! Bush is the new Hitler! Rabble rabble rabble!
              http://www.brandonMdennis.com

              "You wrote that the world doesn't need a saviour, but every day I hear people crying for one." - Superman. Superman Returns.

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                #8
                Re: GOP screws over working poor, again.

                Honestly, the democrats are hardly any different than the republicans. Except for the issue of the 2nd amendment or abortion, their platforms are damn near identical.
                The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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                  #9
                  Re: GOP screws over working poor, again.

                  I agree with toecutter. I usually vote for whoever I think has the best morales. Actually I havn't voted yet, but I will vot for the one with the best morales.
                  I was like a Cloud once!!!!

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                    Re: GOP screws over working poor, again.

                    Originally posted by Roneatek
                    Republicans are all evil! The world is coming to an end! Bush is the new Hitler! Rabble rabble rabble!
                    Although you'll note on this particular topic, save for three or four Republicans, that the parties voted along traditional party lines. Generally I think Democrats and Republicans have more in common with each other than your average American, but in this case, it was definitely the GOP that aligned to deny a much-needed pay boost.

                    Let's not confuse legitimate criticism with political rhetoric.
                    So you're a fish out of water...
                    Keep swimming.
                    What else can you do?

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