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    New Subdivisions Ban Sex Offenders From Moving In:

    A new subdivision planned in Kansas will look and feel just like any other development in the fast-growing area.

    But there's one big difference: Registered sex offenders won't be allowed to live in the new development in Lenexa, Kan. The development will be off of K-10 highway and and Woodland Road in Johnson County, Kan.

    In August, construction begins on the Kansas City area's first sex-offender-restricted subdivision, probably only the second such development nationwide.

    A Texas-based developer said his plan is an answer to a problem communities wrestle with -- how to keep sexual predators far from children and families.

    Their first such project in Lubbock, Texas, has nearly sold out in nine months. Developer Clayton Isom said he's planning other such subdivisions in the Kansas City area after the Lenexa project is finished.

    "Certainly, there are things you can do to improve a neighborhood, like pour better streets or build a park. But this is more," Isom told The Kansas City Star. "We can keep one little girl or boy safe."

    The developer works closely with homeowners' associations to draw up restrictions banning registered offenders from living inside the development. Potential owners will undergo background checks. If a homeowner becomes a sex offenders after they move in, the association will give them huge financial penalties, a fine of at least $1,000 a day, until they move out of the neighborhood, The Star reported. And a lien may be put on the house, in order to collect the money.

    Apparently, the exclusion of sex offenders is legal. Lubbock's community development executive director Nancy Haney told The Star that the restrictions do not violate the Fair Housing Act.

    "Sex offenders aren't considered one of the seven protected classes," Haney said. "The developers did their homework."

    Isom said his company wants to lobby lawmakers to create financial incentives for developers who create neighborhoods that ban sex offenders.

    Not everyone is happy about the idea.

    "If entire towns and municipalities do this, you have serious constitutional issues," Brett Shirk, executive director of the area chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, told The Star. "If you start outlawing all these areas, where are offenders going to live?" He said it is a "slippery slope."

    The restrictions do not apply to people who have been removed from the sex-offender registry or people who have other crimes on their records. It only applies to sex offenders on the sex-offender registry.

    Isom said he got the idea for the subdivisions after he heard about a 9-year-old Florida girl, Jessica Lunsford, who was kidnapped, raped and killed -- allegedly by a registered sex offender. Court records said that convicted sex offender John Evander Couey admitted kidnapping Jessica, keeping her in his bedroom for several days and burying her alive behind his home.
    http://www.news4jax.com/family/9362047/detail.html

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    this is not good news for my cousin Howard.

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      Fun Fact: I live in Lenexa, KS.

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        Um...wait, so the sex offenders get barred from brand new middle class/upper middle class subdivisions? What good does that do to children whose families aren't rich/aren't moving any time soon? Kids live everywhere. This law just puts more stress on children who are already highly at risk from various other factors. We can't ban sex offenders from ALL housing opportunities, after all.
        Last edited by Starba; 06-13-2006, 03:06 PM.
         

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          Another Fun Fact: Johnson County is loaded to the gills. I think it's one of the top richest counties in the U.S.

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            Well it's not a new law, just an agreement between the developer and the homeowners' association on a code of conduct. If it's alright to govern what the appearance of the front of your house looks like, I can't see the problem with rules that govern something that impacts homeowners more than resale value.

            I'm curious whether children raised in such a community would feel threatened by being in the outside world. At some point parents would have to explain why it's okay to run freely throughout the community, but to be wary in a public park or school, or anywhere outside their molestation-free haven.

            It's a little disturbing to me to see the pervasiveness of the mindset that homes and communities must be built as strongholds against outside threats, but I can't fault parents for trying to protect their kids.
            So you're a fish out of water...
            Keep swimming.
            What else can you do?

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              Originally posted by Starba
              Um...wait, so the sex offenders get barred from brand new middle class/upper middle class subdivisions? What good does that do to children whose families aren't rich/aren't moving any time soon? Kids live everywhere. This law just puts more stress on children who are already highly at risk from various other factors. We can't ban sex offenders from ALL housing opportunities, after all.

              Restrictions and covenants are perfectly legal and have been in force with all homeowners associations for decades. There are communities that do not allow people with children or pets. There is a community north of here that completely governs the way the outside of your house is painted, what material it is made of and how many trees you need to have in your yard. You also can not have any motorcycles on the property at all. People choose to live there and they have the money to pay their dues and they should get what they want because of it. I have no problem with that. I do not feel like my rights have in anyway been harmed or taken away. I dont see anything wrong with a group of like minded people who have the means and who wish to reside in an area together. They arent breaking any laws and its private property.

              As far it being in higher income areas, there is nothing to be done about it. I would love to live in a community like that but I cant afford it. At the same time though, I would not want to stop or alter this just because I dont have the money to participate.
              Last edited by Snarf; 06-13-2006, 03:33 PM.

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                But sex offenders are part of the patchwork of the quilt of America.

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                  Originally posted by Shard
                  Well it's not a new law, just an agreement between the developer and the homeowners' association on a code of conduct. If it's alright to govern what the appearance of the front of your house looks like, I can't see the problem with rules that govern something that impacts homeowners more than resale value.
                  Ah, sorry, I didn't catch that I said "law." Slip of the tongue. Still, legal or not, it still leaves a bad taste. I agree that raising your children in a box is an unfortunate trend we're seeing a lot of here in the U.S. Some of my best memories are of wandering all over the place. It's a natural instinct for kids, and helps you to build independence early on. What are we going to have now, kids who learn about the world from watching TV?
                   

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                    Originally posted by Starba
                    Ah, sorry, I didn't catch that I said "law." Slip of the tongue. Still, legal or not, it still leaves a bad taste. I agree that raising your children in a box is an unfortunate trend we're seeing a lot of here in the U.S. Some of my best memories are of wandering all over the place. It's a natural instinct for kids, and helps you to build independence early on. What are we going to have now, kids who learn about the world from watching TV?
                    Yeah, I remember wandering about when I was a child too, because it was safer than it is now. I dont like having to watch every move my child makes. I want him to be able to ride his bicycle places and explore things on his own. Not only do parents need to worry about what other people could do to them (the child), they also have to worry about authorities being called because some nosey person thinks youre not minding your childs where abouts enough.
                    Last edited by Snarf; 06-13-2006, 03:36 PM.

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                      I doubt it was safer before than it is now. I've heard several stories of sexual predation in one of the towns I grew up in 10 to 20 years before my time up until the present. And seeing as how most sexual assault cases involve people who know each other, I think banning known sexual predators only gives children (and parents) a false sense of security in their community, when they really should be learning common sense and tactics for avoiding or escaping uncomfortable situations.

                      Besides all that, even if you don't feel you're being infringed upon by such housing codes, if this trend becomes widespread, people who live in the communities where these people will be filtered out to who can't escape their housing situation might have a bit more concern.
                       

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                        I never said that those types of crimes never happened when I was a child. What I said is that things were safer. If you look at the statistics of sexual predation (child and non child a like) you will see a a big difference between now and then. Also, the world is much more populated now and with that, there is much more opprotunity for this type of thing to happen.

                        I do my best to teach my son everything he needs to know about trust, friends and strangers, good touching and bad touching, what he should do if he was ever grabbed etc. etc. and I make sure to let him know just how bad people can be. If I had the money though, I would live some place like this.
                        Last edited by Snarf; 06-13-2006, 04:08 PM.

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                          Where only the rookie sexual predators would live.

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                            Originally posted by Snarf
                            If I had the money though, I would live some place like this.
                            I think moving out in the country would be a better solution. I'm biased, though.
                             

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                              Originally posted by Starba
                              I think moving out in the country would be a better solution. I'm biased, though.



                              Here here!! Hey, if I had my preference, me thinks it would be in another country.

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