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    Monster Rancher Is Dying! *PLEASE READ*

    I'm a bit concerned about the future of MR, frankly. Tecmo's been having trouble with the series since the turn of the century.

    It all started with MR3. As a number of people here will agree, it was a wonderful game. However, it was released very early in the PS2's life, when it was very, very expensive in Japan. The audience wasn't there yet. As a result, Monster Farm 3 sold half as many copies as MF2 did during it's first month. Tecmo took a financial hit, but it was absorbed by the huge amount of cash Sony gave them to have MF3 use the Picture Paradise feature. And in the end, it managed to sell about 300,000 copies, the profitability sweet spot.

    Next comes MR4. The mechanics from the previous games, plus the GBA games, were taken and improved upon. They went out of their way to create a whole new MR experience, and even added a storyline. They were successful, as MR4 turned out to be the most refined game in the series.

    It's sales, however, did not reflect the game's quality. Since MR games are so huge, it's impossible to playtest every single aspect effectively. They ended up accidentally leaving a glitch in the game which caused the game not to save after beating the storyline, permanently leaving Japanese players stuck at that point. As sales went to a standstill, Tecmo frantically fixed the bug and released a "Greatest Hits" version, also keeping it out of the US build. They took a big hit and ended up looking bad. It managed to sell again, and marginally exceeded the sales of MF3. But they didn't profit as much.

    The worst problem was with Monster Rancher Evo. Tecmo was constantly bombarded by requests from Japanese fans for an MF RPG. By this time, MF5 was in development, and they assigned a brand new director to the project. They decided to go through with it. They took the MF formula and gave it a twist and mix, resulting in a radically different, but still very entertaining, MF game. It improves on select elements while changing/replacing others completely (Like Monster tournaments and ranks), and providing an interesting story in a circus setting to boot. They promoted the hell out of it; cruises, parades, short animation, you name it.

    Unfortunately, it did not go over well at all. The Japanese hated the changes, as reflected by the sales. It ended up selling less than 30,000 copies before completely dropping off the sales charts, making it the worst selling Monster Farm game in history. The Japanese likely didn't expect it to be such a departure, and were totally alienated. Thus, when they localized it, they renamed it Monster Rancher Evo to keep it distanced from the primary series so people wouldn't get the wrong expectations. This didn't stop reviewers from crapping all over the game (Save GameSpy, which has the only fair MREvo review on the Internet), and sales weren't good stateside, either. Though probably a bit better than it's JP sales. Due to the game's critical and financial failure, it prompted the resignation of several key employees, likely including the unfortunate director himself.

    Now things are up in the air. With the PS3 being so non-mass-market at the moment, Tecmo's strong MS support and the potentially huge market for Wii, no one has any idea where MR will end up. One thing is for certain; Tecmo has not given up on the series, in spite of everything, and MF6 is definitely inevitable (God knows what they'll call it in the states. MR5? MR6? MR: Subtitle?).

    Also, they're never gonna listen to their audience again. Ever. I sure wouldn't, after all that.

    On top of that, they're still experimenting with the series, with titles like Monster Farm Pop for the mobile (Monsters in 3D, with MR4's models; monsters are generated by taking pictures of things with the camera phone), which is doing quite well and was recently updated with online battles, and Monster Rancher Online; a PC MR game slated for Winter of this year which has free online play, but requires miniscule micropayments for minor things, like items, which is basically identical to or less than monthly payments for traditional ORPGs at the end of the month, akin to many successful Asian MMOs.

    However, due to the fact that MR sells less in the US than in Japan, no one can tell what will happen on our side.
    Last edited by RPGD; 06-08-2006, 09:19 PM.

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    Re: The Ambiguous Future of Monster Rancher in the States

    Claps.

    Your my
    Last edited by Red Dragon; 06-02-2006, 11:08 PM.

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      #3
      Re: The Ambiguous Future of Monster Rancher in the States

      I wish. I'm quite concerned about this, and Lisa's really worried.

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        game companies should never listen to the fans. anytime a company listens to the fans, the fans end up hating the game.



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          Re: The Ambiguous Future of Monster Rancher in the States

          Originally posted by Valkysas
          game companies should never listen to the fans. anytime a company listens to the fans, the fans end up hating the game.
          The irony (and truth) in this statement is spot on.

          If you ask me, Monster Rancher is best suited for portable systems just like Pokemon games have never had any business on the consoles. In my opinion, games that reward micromanagement, long-term play, and deep, strategical thinking and planning best belong in your hands where you can pick it up and play it anywhere whether it's for a few hours or just a couple of minutes.

          Monster Rancher 2 was one of my favorite playstation games (and I enjoyed the goofy anime as well) and I wouldn't mind seeing a MR appear on the DS or PSP. I can't say that I'll ever end up buying an MR game on the consoles but if they make a Wii version and it had some cool features exclusive for the Wii I might check it out.

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            Re: The Ambiguous Future of Monster Rancher in the States

            On another note, I guess people are curious about Monster Rancher Jamboree for the DS.

            Basically, it's an MR game which was supposed to be more of an RPG than the conventional MR games. There's some artwork and screenshots floating around the 'net. It made an appearance at the TGS in 2004 and was never seen since.

            According to Lisa, Tecmo shelved the game to work on other projects. One might consider that the idea behind it was implemented in Evo, but that is not the case, as the director for MR4 was behind it. With the new director likely out on his backside, and considering the poor sales of MF5, they may very well scrap it or simply change it into a traditional MR game.

            In the event that they scrap it, it's quite possible that Monster Farm Pop could end up ported to the DS, as they mentioned that they wanted to release it stateside for a while, but the US phones are too crappy at the moment. Though MFPop isn't a graphical hulk, the monsters are all in 3D, and look surprisingly good. If they can't get it on US phones, porting it to the DS shouldn't be too much trouble. The picture-taking shrining method can be replaced by drawing on a tablet with the touch screen, and the network battling replaced by NWC play.

            Also, MR has always been meant to be on consoles, especially considering one of it's biggest selling points: the addictive CD/DVD shrining. It was specifically designed for them, unlike Pokemon. However, it's definitely also great for handhelds.
            Last edited by RPGD; 06-02-2006, 11:55 PM.

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              Re: The Ambiguous Future of Monster Rancher in the States

              you realize most people don't know who "Lisa" is, right?



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                I didn't expect many people to reply to this topic.

                Anyway, Lisa Shock is the Monster Rancher community's equivalent to Paul here. Merged with Kire. And female.

                Seriously, though, this middle-aged woman is the webmaster of Monster Rancher Metropolis, the most comprehensive community and research database for all things Monster Rancher. She's surprisingly well-known in the Trekkie community, as she is an avid Star Trek and general Sci-Fi fan, whom also made several TV appearances, including commercials and on Star Trek.

                Lisa Shock is very close to Tecmo of Japan. She's spoken to staff members, Itagaki, and even the president of Tecmo on numerous occasions. She's a bit paranoid about relations, though, and sends lots of special holiday cards to them. They even sent her some one-of-a-kind figures of the Antlan Rangers, Dark Antlan and Chaos Monsters from MR4 a year or two ago. Her great devotion to promoting the series and maintaining such an incredible database has earned her a great deal of respect, and has appeared in the Special Thanks in every single MR game since MR2. Go on, check for yourselves. The other guy is Monster Fenrick, whom until recently worked on making saves with every monster species in the books and holding large-scale monster tourneys. He got married, and his old-fashioned wife doesn't like videogames or her husband's devotion to MR. Thus he stopped doing image archives and tournaments, but currently remains a pseudo-active member of the community since his wife lightened up a bit. He is the webmaster of Legend Cup.

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                  Re: The Ambiguous Future of Monster Rancher in the States

                  I remember the MR anime series when I was a kid. I got ****** off because they never made any new episodes. I must of seen every episode up to a certain point around many-illion times.

                  Thats pretty cool too that she got to meet Itagaki. I would love to meet him... to kick him in the groins for making Hayabusa so damn cheap.

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                    Re: The Ambiguous Future of Monster Rancher in the States

                    The thing is, handhelds aren't as weak as they were a few years ago. The DS has the innovative touch screen (which as you said, can be used as a drawing tablet like Magic Pengel) and the PSP has its UMD's and media storage which can effectively copy the original CD ability.

                    It's a shame that there's no big MR market in the states as there is other franchises but so is the nature of the beast (read: corperations).

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                      #11
                      Re: The Ambiguous Future of Monster Rancher in the States

                      That's a given, marcus. MR can work much better for handhelds now.

                      However, in the case of UMD reading, the UMD format has lost almost all of it's support, with several big Hollywood studios screwing it, thus it would make no sense since it will never be standardized. In Japan, the only popular non-game use for UMDs is portable porn.

                      Regardless, MR is best suited for consoles.
                      Last edited by RPGD; 06-04-2006, 05:01 PM.

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                        Re: The Ambiguous Future of Monster Rancher in the States

                        Originally posted by RPGDesigner
                        Anyway, Lisa Shock is the Monster Rancher community's equivalent to Paul here. Merged with Kire. And female.
                        She sounds like a goddess!
                        In Japan, the only popular non-game use for UMDs is portable porn.
                        And if we had that here I bet UMDs wouldn't be failing.
                        I want that Mulan McNugget sauce, Morty!

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                          Haha, MROnline. Me and my friend set up a huge plan for an online monster rancher when we were like 10. I'd buy it.

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                            And if we had that here I bet UMDs wouldn't be failing.
                            kotaku recently reported on a local news story, saying the PSP could create porn out of thin air, which didnt even mention that the web browser was obviously used. no, they said the PSP created the porn.

                            can you imagine if you could actually buy porn for it? none of these idiotic parents would dare buy a PSP for their kid, despite most kids having their own VCRs and DVD players now.

                            the US is just too stupid right now.



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