Dont ****ing break the rules in japan.

[The_Real_Crunk]

http://libcom.org/news/article.php/j...torture-210506

http://www.justicefornickbaker.org/index.shtml

[Karr Lord of Chaos]

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no mater how civilized a country can be, there is always some place where we show how brutal and barbaric we can be. the japanese systems needs an overhall, under no law should there be that high a conviction rate. torcher is even against the geniva convention and against human rights, why isnt the united nations doing something to curb this?

[HolyPhoenix]

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There criminals. Except for the people who get thrown in jail for not painting there houses. That's sad.

[Fushigi na Renamon]

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This is terrible. I have no idea what else to say, aside from the fact that after reading this my faith in humanity is slipping.

[Snarf]

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Prison is supposed to not be fun. That is the whole point. I personally dont see anything wrong with how the prisoners are treated. What I think is wrong is the ridiculous reasons why you would be sent to jail in the first place.

[Starba]

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I think the second article's biggest beef was with the justice system and 99:1 odds against acquittal. Therefore, even if you've been framed or are simply innocent, the Japanese courts will not recognize it, presumably in an effort to save face.

When I received my go-ahead to go abroad, they just said "every tale you hear about foreign prisons is true."

[Magus]

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The Japanese are silly.

[Pandable]

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Okay?
We need a stricter justice system with tougher penalties and less slaps on the wrist anyway. Maybe not like Japan, but America is WAY too lax.

[Kefka Jr.]

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If Japan had more attorneys like Phoenix Wright, this wouldn't be a problem.

[The Toecutter]

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We need a stricter justice system with tougher penalties and less slaps on the wrist anyway. Maybe not like Japan, but America is WAY too lax.

Depends on the crime.

America's court system is biased in favor of those who have money, biased in favor of whites, and slightly biased in favor of protestants.

The penaltuies for blue collar criminals have been far too harsh, yet far too lax for white collar criminals. Add to that the high risk of rape in prisons, over half of all incarcerations being non violent individuals(ie. drug users and such), and the highest incarceration rate in the world, even beating out Russia and China, and it becomes quite clear that America's system as well is too strict and too biased. Perhaps not as bad as Japan's, but it is quite horrible.

A professor of criminal justice I know, Charles M. Terry, experienced America's prison system first hand. He was arrested back in the 70s for heroin possesion. He has repeatedly witnessed prison gaurds encouraging rapings of prisoners they disliked. He has told me about how a mentally ill man was not given his medication, and when he complained, the gaurds pulled him out of his cell, tied him down, and nearly beat him to death. He didn't get medical treatment for days afterward. Further, the prisoners are often used as a source of cheap labor for for-profit companies, paid well below minimum wage. In his case he and other prisoners tried to organize a labor strike, in which they refused to do work for the prison demanding higher wages. Some of the prisoners were shot.

[Karr Lord of Chaos]

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im very tired of the stupid race card thats played. there are more cases of racial discrimination then id like to see but to say the entire system is comprimised by money and race is a lie.

im not saying the system is perfect but i am saying its not the domain of arogant rich white men - those statements are why their is so much rasism going on in this world, becuase we cant get past such trival differences!

[The Toecutter]

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These differences, at least as our society portrays them, are far from small. These differences manifest themselves in income earning potential, conviction rates, sentencing, and opportunity for personal advancement in a big way. If one can't afford their own lawyer and must use a publically appointed defender, for instance, a person's chances of conviction might be more comparable to that of Japan.

[Shadow Rider]

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The justice system in America and Canada is biased towards rich white people...however steps are being taken to make it better very slowly. There are a lot of psychological studies on the matter, and courts are slowly having the information presented and reforms are being made.

On the other hand, courts have ignored a lot of evidence like that before.

On the topic at hand though, the stubborness of the Japanese Justice system is pretty reknown. What they are doing to him is pretty horrible. Although, when it comes to reading about the lack of heating and A/C in jails...the same thing happens in schools and public buildings too. Central Heating and Air aren't used...so how the jails are made out to be are biased in that respect...and probably biased in another respect.

In fact, the article's strongest points were anecdotal...which are the least useful forms of information when you want to know the facts at hand. Plus, anything drug related is taken VERY seriously in Japan. Smoking weed is worthy of jail time, fines, and eventual deportation...at least according to the Japanese.

[Pandable]

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As it should be, methinks. I'm sick and tired of children wasting away their lives on pot when they could be doing things for our society.

[The Toecutter]

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What about those who use pot recreationally, and still do something with their lives? Isn't the entire concept behind individual freedom also the freedom to waste your life away if you so choose? I just wouldn't want society to support such people, on the other hand. By throwing them in prison, society ends up doing that anyway, and we pay for it through taxes...