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    Hey everyone, look at my butt - JAPANESE HORROR

    I know there a few fans of Se7en here and more than a few horror fans so I thought I'd bring up Kiyoshi Kurosawa. He's been making waves for a while apparently but I just recently discovered him. His outlook is bleak, morbid, completely pessimistic. His style: choking darkness. I think you guys should appreciate this.

    Cure is in many ways the Japanese response to David Fincher's Se7en. The plot, characters and situations are similar: a weary urban detective and his partner investigate a spree of grisly, ritualistic murders. Whereas the American film is paced like an action movie with enough beats of gunplay and excitement to keep the blood pumping (remember the chase after John Doe through the apartment building?), there's nothing like that in Cure. Methodical, slow, even sleepy, there's barely any flash at all. Yet Cure, IMHO, may be far more disturbing. The movies of Kiyoshi Kurosawa, I find so far, really stick in your mind long afterward.

    I saw Pulse, which is due to be Americanized come March 3rd (starring Veronica Mars and Boone from Lost), at a screening last night. A J-horror in the vein of The Ring the Internet is the bane of our heroes this time around with a ghastly website/virus asking websurfers "Would you like to meet a ghost?" Sure enough, ghosts show up but don't shrug this off as another Ringu rip-off with scary babies and long-haired girls. Aside from loads of creepy goings-ons none of those J-staples are found here. The suspense, the style, and the ideas behind everything in Pulse are above and beyond anything produced recently on either shore.

    I walked out of Pulse so chilled and disturbed... one of the most haunting outcomes I've seen on film.

    So! Anyone else at least heard of these?
    Last edited by Magus; 01-23-2006, 12:11 AM.

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    I'm not looking forward to Pulse, the trailer doesn't show much promise.

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      Re: Films of Kiyoshi Kurosawa - Cure and Pulse

      I rewatched the American Pulse trailer a few minutes ago and it looks like a shot-for-shot remake... except with a helluva lot more yelling and a guy in Gollum make-up hiding behind a wall.

      If American remakes are just the same exact story - with 90% more all-American blondes screaming "ZOMG GHOSTS" at the top of their lungs - it leads one to wonder, y'know, moreso than usual: why BOTHER?

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        Re: Hey everyone, look at my butt - JAPANESE HORROR

        and it looks like a shot-for-shot remake
        Sounds like Gus VanSaint's remake of Psycho. I think you answered your own question.

        why BOTHER?





        By the way, that's a nice butt.
        Last edited by Loki; 01-23-2006, 06:07 AM.

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          Re: Hey everyone, look at my butt - JAPANESE HORROR

          The Psycho remake is hilariously miscast.

          And thank you.

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            Re: Hey everyone, look at my butt - JAPANESE HORROR

            Pulse sounds like "Fear.com." Not saying that Pulse rips it off, the other way around. *sighs* American's should stop trying to rip J-Horror. It just doesn't work to their advantage.

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              The Ring made a lot of money. Bottom line.



              A side note: At my job someone left blank, consumer level, video casettes laying on the tables with sticky notes on them that said stuff like "Watch this video," or "Here's the movie you were asking about" and on them was a black and white teasser trailer for the Ring Two.

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                Re: Hey everyone, look at my butt - JAPANESE HORROR

                Ugh. Forget about that (Fear.com).

                If Se7en is Cure's American cousin then I'd bet 28 Days Later would be cousins with Pulse, if only thematically.
                Last edited by Magus; 01-23-2006, 06:10 AM.

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                  Re: Hey everyone, look at my butt - JAPANESE HORROR

                  28 Days Later isnt American....

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                    Re: Hey everyone, look at my butt - JAPANESE HORROR

                    He didn't specifically say it was American, but he might well have thought that, anyway.

                    I've heard something of Pulse, but nothing that made me want to see it until now.
                    "Mindless killing doesn't do a lot for me anymore." - Sampson

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                      Re: Hey everyone, look at my butt - JAPANESE HORROR

                      I couldn't find a trailer for Cure, but I did see the American trailer for Pulse, and it looks interesting.

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                        Re: Hey everyone, look at my butt - JAPANESE HORROR

                        His entire subject is about Japanese horror movies versus their American counter part. In the same breath he called Se7en the American cousin of Cure, he stated that 28 Days would be considered the cousin of Pulse.

                        To me, thats saying its American. And I dont think you can even compare the two.

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                            The topic is two obscure Japanese movies nobody's heard of so I don't know why I'm bothering in the first place.

                            It's not a compare-and-contrast. I dropped Se7en and 28 Days Later because those movies have several similarities with Cure and Pulse respectively, and to give a better idea of what the movies are like.

                            I made a mistake calling 28 Days Later American. Should I have said Hollywood instead? Or simply Western?

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                              Ummm, its neither?

                              Danny Boyle directed it and Alex Garland wrote it. It was out on DVD in the UK before it even started playing in the states.

                              Please explain to me what Hollywood had to do with it?

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