Feel like an opinion (Those who loathe Pokemon; save your criticism)

[RPGD]

I recently felt like playing Pokemon FireRed to complete my Pokedex spanning my other games (save the promo Pokemon I've been rather unlucky with finding). Normally, I think very carefully about my team and it's movesets. However, I'm rather whimsy at the mo, and would like a few opinions on what to add to fill the last two vacancies.

My (future) roster currently has Blastoise, Zapdos, Steelix and Hariyama. What do you guys think I should add?

Ridiculers need not apply. Or else... Uhh..

:minotaur

[Vonwert]

I always go with an evee team. Have every time of evee.

But if you want to keep the rest, then I would go with a psychic pokemon.

[Draygone]

Eh, I haven't had much interest in the trading aspect since I got tired of how Nintendo was creating Pokemon one could only get through promotions and contests (darn it, I was there when they were giving away Celebi at Six Flags, but I DIDN'T BRING MY CRYSTAL VERSION), so I only wind up using the Pokemon found in that specific version.

Normally, I don't care much about having the strongest team, either. For one, the game isn't as challenging as real people, and I don't play with real people (here's hoping we someday get a Pokemon Online). Anyway, I usually just go with the Pokemon I come across that I like. My final team when I played Fire Red was Arcanine, Pidgeot, Kangaskhan, Raichu, Lapras, and Primape (didn't like that one too much, but I needed one to use Strength).

My recommendation is simply to create a balanced team. There's got to be some good formation that's strong both offensively and defensively. If someone throws in a Pokemon that yours is weak against, gotta have one to throw in that isn't (and hopefully is strong against). A Pokemon that's capable of learning odd attacks (like having a Raticate with Hydro Pump, dunno if that's possible) is good to have, as long as the Pokemon can use those odd attacks well. Obviously, that Raticate isn't going to do a good job with Hydro Pump with that low special attack it has. But it'll still surprise that Golem! :)

[RPGD]

Uhh, heh, actually, I've had my fair share of PvP battles and am capable of setting up a tourney-worthy team. I just wanna see what you peoples' suggestions will yield, as no other method'll convince me to use Pokemon I don't normally use.

If you can't think of anything, or are a bit on the bored side, you can always comment on wierd Pokedex entries. http://pokefor.greenchu.de/zukan/pokemon/
(Click the "flavor" tab in each entry for the excerpts).

[The Toecutter]

When I played the first ones, I used to like using Ekans and Arbok exclusively. No one could defeat them. They were my loyal attack snakeys. :)

[KumoShinagi]

I use a Blastose and Sycther.

My bro and I got Green/Red and Colloseum.

The wireless adaptor did little for pokemon execpt let you chat like 5-10 feet away from your friends.

The new editions of Poke mon better have a beefed and better up battle system.
It's the same since the original Game Boy.

[altoecko]

I suggest a Dragonite or Mewtwo if you can get them. Dragonite is dragon, strength, and a little bit of Pyschic power. Plus it can learn a few Water Moves. It's just an all around well balanced Pokemon. And Mewtwo? Well hell, have you seen it in action? X.x If you can't get Mewtwo, another good Pyschic is the Psychic form of Evee.

[Nixon]

I haven't played a pokemon game since we imported silver and gold. But I remember kicking Dave's ass with a high level Wigglytuff and a Chancey.

[jspaceman]

http://portfolio.iu.edu/regonzal/chansey.jpg


http://portfolio.iu.edu/regonzal/wigglytuff.jpg

[Draygone]

Come to think of it, Missingno was a fun Pokemon to play with from time to time. Too bad they didn't decide to turn that thing into a real Pokemon.

Missingno
No. ?
Glitch Pokemon
Hight: Varies
Weight: 0 lbs

This Pokemon's true origins are unknown. It is thought to have been accidentally created when Porygon was being made.

The best part was, it could give you a nearly infinate amount of whatever item is in a certain position of your item list. Too bad it scrambled the data stored for winning at the Pokemon League.

[The_Real_Crunk]

It was actually just a glitch. On my copy of Red, I can get lvl 300 Snorlaxs to show up when I do the missingno. glitch.

I can capture and use them too.

[RPGD]

I've pretty much decided on my final team for FireRed after doing a bit of switching 'round n' such.

Blastoise@Leftovers
Torrent
-Rapid Spin/Rest
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Roar

The usual (for the most part) utility Blastoise. Nice range for dealing with spikers (If I keep RS. Skarmbliss will likely still be a hassle) and passers.

Zapdos@Leftovers
Pressure
-Thunderbolt
-Drill Peck
-TWave
-HP (?)/Substitute

It's been ages since I've used this guy. It's type is l33t, plus it's no slouch in the attack department. I'll try getting HP Grass or something of that effect.

Forretress@Leftovers
Sturdy
-Earthquake
-Rapid Spin
-Spikes
-Zap Cannon/Light Screen/Explosion

Versatility. This guy's one hell of a Spiker. It was definitely worth kicking Steelix off the island. Only weakness is fire (albeit 4X), but it's no physical weaknesses and plenty of resistances. I luff j00.

Hariyama@Leftovers
Thick Fat
-Cross Chop
-Knock Off
-Shadowball/Toxic
-Counter

Omgliekt3h sum0!11!! Seriously, though. Hariyama not only looks awesome (he's FAT), he is awesome. This guy's got plenty of stamina, and l33t attack to boot. Knock Off can totally screw over battle strategies.

Banette@Leftovers
Insomnia
-Shadowball
-Substitute
-WoW
-HP(Fighting)/Skill Swap

Ghost types are mucho better nowadays. This thing's no exception. Unlike Gengar, which happens to have a low Attack stat compared to it's Sp.Att, this guy's got physical power. Plus, it also has the best status-inflicting technique, in my opinion, Will-o-Wisp, which automatically burns the opposition. And we all know (Ok, perhaps not) that once a Pokemon's burned, it's attack power plummets. Great for Skarmbliss. Skill Swap is a possibility for having some fun with Pokemon that depend on Rest, by swapping the opponent's trait with this guy's Insomnia, preventing Rest completely, and watching it whither away. Heheheheheh.

Well, I've actually hit a bit of a road block. I'm torn between these two Pokemon for the 6th slot:

http://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/sprites/gba_sugimori/233.png

Porygon2@Leftovers (Gluttons, all of them... *sob*)
Trace
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Toxic
-Recover

Straight to the point. Porygon2 is a wacky one to use, what with it's trait, Trace, which allows it to copy the opponent's trait. Hella fun. Trapping trappers, canceling out Pure Power (Which doubles attack. Evil, I know), or just goofing about. This guy's crazy. It uses Tbolt and IB very well. It just... works.

AND...

http://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/sprites/gba_sugimori/206.png

Dunsparce@Wait for it...... Leftovers
Serene Grace
-Body Slam
-Headbutt
-Ancient Power
-Counter/Ice Beam

Look at this guy. Take a good look at this guy. Notice something? It's one of the deadliest Pokemon in today's metagame. Yes, this guy. This guy's trait, Serene Grace, doubles the chances of a special effect happening as a result of an attack. That means Headbutt has a 60% chance of makingthe opponent flinch, Body Slam has a 60% of paralyzing the opponent, Ancient Power has a 20% chance of increasing all of it's stats, etc. Yes, this guy. It also has excellent stamina, and is capable of screwing up entire teams alone.

Yes, this guy.

What do you guys think I should go with?

Porygon2 Vs. Dunsparce. Battle to the death. BEGIN!

[RPGD]

Ah, in case some of you don't know some of the aformentioned, here's a little clarification:
http://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/sprites/gba_sugimori/205.pnghttp://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/sprites/gba_sugimori/297.pnghttp://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/sprites/gba_sugimori/354.png

Foretress, Hariyama and Banette, respectively. I trust you already know what Blastoise and Zapdos look like.

EDIT: Is this fine with you, Paul, or should I remove the images?

[Draygone]

I never would've thought of Dunsparse as a good Pokemon. I mean, just look at the thing. But I guess the addition of traits in the GBA games kinda helped. If only there were a way to change its trait instead of having to catch more than one of a type of Pokemon in hopes that it'll have the right trait.

This topic sure is making me re-interested in Pokemon. The only version I have right now is Crystal (favorite version), so I don't get to have the traits, but maybe it'll still be fun.

It's just too bad Pokemon Collesium doesn't have LAN support, or else I'd grab a Broadband adaptor and grab that one program I've heard about that turns LAN gaming into online gaming.

[RPGD]

You do realize that there are a few established Online Pokebattle programs floating around, right? They don't use the game, though.

http://www.tvsian.com/netbattle/

[RPGD]

Bump.

[Valkysas]

Is this fine with you, Paul, or should I remove the images?

.... why wouldnt it be?

[RPGD]

Dunno. I was like "better safe than sorry", but nevermind.

Oh, I still haven't decided whether to use Porygon2 or Dunsparce. How about a little poll?

[Caciss]

Dunsparce.

[Valkysas]

POKEMON

[RPGD]

I have no idea what to chalk that up to, Paul.

[Redneck 2000]

POKEMON ..

[RPGD]

Thank you for your appreciation...

Seriously, can I get a few more opinions?

[MasterSlowPoke]

Get a Slowpoke. We rock.

[Draygone]

You do realize that there are a few established Online Pokebattle programs floating around, right? They don't use the game, though. That sounds interesting (never knew that), but I'd rather use a team I raised on my own rather than have the freedom of choosing any Pokemon and choosing each and every one of their stats and moves without limitations.

[WingZero]

I suggest using Mewtwo and maybe Umbreon. If you can't or don't get a Mewtwo, go with Espeon or Alakazam. I prefer Alakazam. If you have Steelix, try to teach it Baton Pass (only if you use Kadabra), because then, it's stats are added to the Pokemon that comes out in place for the pokemon. That way, Alakazam has super high defense as well as Special Attack. Just my opinion though. I prefer Blaziken and Rayquaza.

[RPGD]

It seems like everyone save Caciss and Paul (he was bored) don't understand the question. I'm going to be absolutely precise here;

In the rather long message I posted on the first page, I indicated that I had decided on, for the most part, all the Pokemon I wish to use in my team, and listed seven different Pokemon. After mentioning the fifth, I mentioned that I was torn between two Pokemon; Porygon2 and Dunsparce. I posted their planed movesets, traits and attached items. I also gave a description regarding their effectiveness and strategy in battle. Not to mention graphics of them both.

After listing that information, I asked whether, in your opinions, I should use Porygon2 or Dunsparce. My decision would be based on how many favor one or the other. That's pretty much it. I don't wan't any other Pokemon suggestions, I just want to know whether you think I should use Porygon2 or Dunsparce.

I hope this clears any and all confusion.

[Big Rick Cook]

Dude, you're like... a dick.

[RPGD]

Sorry, had to say it :( .

[Draygone]

Dunsparce.

[MasterSlowPoke]

And I repeat, ditch them both and go with a Slowpoke.

[Alzar]

PIKACHU

[Sampson]

Dude, no offense, but your team sucks. First ditch that zapdos, real men don't fight with legendaries. Second--for the most part, Blastoise sucks. He's alright, but there are so many water types that are better. (Starmie, Slowbro...) Fortress is a good pokemon, won't fault you there. Hariyama is the same as Blastoise, an alright pokemon but there are much better alternatives (Heracross, Breloom) I think you're making a mistake with Banette. Gengar is still the king of ghost types, and no one uses rest-based strategies anymore anyway--at least not as often as to warrant a pokemon and a move.

And to get to your question--with your current team build you need that Porygon2. Look at your team, no special sweeper.

In addition, your strategies are elementry. Use some berries for god sake. The most complex thing on your team is fortress with his spikes, and spikes are over-used anyway.

Tauros is the master of the metagame. I've destroyed entire teams with him alone.

When you do finish your team hit me up on AIM (PheonixSampson) so I can battle you on NetBattle.

[Draygone]

First ditch that zapdos, real men don't fight with legendaries. IMO Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres are the weakest of the legendaries, so I see no real problem. Zapdos may not be as succeptable to electric attacks, but all it takes is one good Ice attack and that thing is done.

[RPGD]

.... Wow, where the hell've you been?

Actually, this is a "fun" team I wanted to use for the heck of it, since I'm playing Fr on whim (No one else was using it). I'm well aware of how mediocre it is, though I do disagree regarding Hariyama and Banette (I changed his moveset a bit since I posted that last dealie).

Regarding Blastoise and Zapdos, I've just always wanted to use 'em.

I'd be happy to ask you for advice regarding tweaking my main team, though.

[Sampson]

If you want some fun, try my Tauros build.

Tauros
Item: Choice Band
EV's: Full Attack and Speed
Adamant

Return
HP Ghost
Iron Tail
(Filler)

Return with STAB+CB+ATK EV=insta death, and Tauros is fairly fast. The only thing that can really stop this guy is a defensive tank, or some some kind of roar based strategy, and the later is very rare. I usually send him out first, but if you keep him in the back he's very useful for mopping up.

[RPGD]

Pretty intense. Wouldn't an Ursaring with Return/Frustration yield similar results?

[Sampson]

Yeah, only slower and lacking intimidate. Dotrio, Khangiskhan can be made to work in a similar fashion as well, but Tauros is still the best in the department.

EDIT: I'd say the weakest legendaires are the golems. (regirock, regiice, registeel) Those are the only ones that are questionable wether or not they're even legendary. I can beat a team of them, its not hard, legendaries are just frowned on because they're too easy to use.

[Garr123]

I used to play that netbattle thing all the time, if you want to try that team out against one of mine IM me on AIM: Captainstupid00

[Draygone]

Darn, my interest in Pokemon has been rekindled, and I've started a new file on Crystal. Maybe later I'll try to find a copy of Stadium 2, for when I feel like I need a real challenge.

[RPGD]

I've just about completed the revamped Netbattle version of my team. I might ask someone for a challenge later on to give it a go.