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    Ok, this is disgusting

    What the military is doing in New Orleans, barring reporters from covering this tragedy, is illegal.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NG3HEMQHG1.DTL

    As bodies recovered, reporters are told 'no photos, no stories'

    New Orleans -- A long caravan of white vans led by an Army humvee rolled Monday through New Orleans' Bywater district, a poor, mostly black neighborhood, northeast of the French Quarter.

    Recovery team members wearing white protective suits and black boots stopped at houses with spray painted markings on the doors designating there were dead bodies inside.

    Outside one house on Kentucky Street, a member of the Army 82nd Airborne Division summoned a reporter and photographer standing nearby and told them that if they took pictures or wrote a story about the body recovery process, he would take away their press credentials and kick them out of the state.

    "No photos. No stories," said the man, wearing camouflage fatigues and a red beret.

    On Saturday, after being challenged in court by CNN, the Bush administration agreed not to prevent the news media from following the effort to recover the bodies of Hurricane Katrina victims.

    But on Monday, in the Bywater district, that assurance wasn't being followed. The 82nd Airborne soldier told reporters the Army had a policy that requires media to be 300 meters -- more than three football fields in length -- away from the scene of body recoveries in New Orleans. If reporters wrote stories or took pictures of body recoveries, they would be reported and face consequences, he said, including a loss of access for up-close coverage of certain military operations.

    Dean Nugent, of the Louisiana State Coroner's Department, who accompanied the soldier, added that it wasn't safe to be in Bywater. "They'll kill you out here," he said, referring to the few residents who have continued to defy mandatory evacuation orders and remain in their homes."

    "The ****roaches come out at night," he said of the residents. "This is one of the worst places in the country. You should not be here. Especially you," he told a female reporter.

    Nugent, who is white, acknowledged he wasn't personally familiar with the poor, black neighborhood, saying he only knew of it by reputation.

    Later Monday, the recovery team collected a body from a green house on St. Anthony Street in nearby Seventh Ward. The dead man, who was slipped into a black body bag and carried out to one of the white vans, had been lying alone on the living room floor for nearly two weeks, neighbors said.

    "I told them weeks ago he was in there," said Barry Dominguez, 39, who lives across the street and has refused to leave the neighborhood he grew up in.

    After the recovery team took away the St. Anthony Street body, two workers urinated on the side of a neighbor's house.

    The CNN suit was in response to comments Friday at a news conference in which officials from the Federal Emergency Management Agency said members of the news media would not be allowed to witness the recovery of hurricane victims' bodies.

    Terry Ebbert, New Orleans' homeland security director, had said Friday that the recovery effort would be done with dignity, "meaning that there would be no press allowed." Army Lt. Gen. Russell Honore later said there would be zero access to the recovery operation.

    During a hearing Saturday morning in U.S. District Court in Houston, a lawyer who represented the government said FEMA had revised its previous plans to limit coverage.

    Government agencies may still refuse requests from members of the media to ride along, or be "embedded," on recovery boats as crews gather the dead. "But, to the extent the press can go out to the locations, they're free to do that," said Keith Wyatt, an assistant U.S. attorney, according to a transcript of the hearing. "They're free to take whatever pictures they can take."

    Army Lt. Col. Richard Steele said the government's position as explained in court Saturday didn't represent a change in policy. Reporters can watch recovery efforts they come upon, but they won't be embedded with search teams.

    "We're not going to bar, impede or prevent" the media from telling the story, he said. "We're just not going to give the media a ride."

    Chronicle news services contributed to this report. E-mail Cecilia Vega at cvega@sfchronicle.com.
    The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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    I don't have a problem with this in principle. If it someone in my family was one of the bodies I wouldn't want reporters taking pictures either.
    The Cyclops having only one eye, needed to seek shelter from the harsh sun. The shadow cast by the spheres gave him temporary respite.

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      #3
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      Pictures are one thing, but stories covering the aftermath of the disaster?
      The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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        yeah, I think thats the reason. they dont want the news retards running constant stories showing pictures of the bodies being carted away and such, because you know that if they could, they would.

        I know if I saw anyone taking pictures of some poor person who died during the hurricane, I'd ****ing shoot them. it's sick, and the only reason they want to do it is for ratings and having the next big story. they dont give a **** about the human element.

        so bravo, military people.



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          #5
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          I see Tocutter's argument to free speech of the media, but there needs to be a line somewhere. Especially when death is involved.

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            Also you know there is the health risk of having a reporter in the boat with you as you're pulling two week old bodies out of filfthy water.

            It sounds to me like at first it was overzealousness by the military people in threatening to kick someone out of the state for writing a story. But the fact that the person quoted as saying that is describe as only a member and not someone of rank gives me the impression that it was just some private who was supposed to keep them back and he used an empty threat.

            Also the two guys urinating on the house, while not really the proper thing to do, seems just like two guys taking a leak in a place where there's not really proper restrooms. Or so I'd imagine. I doubt it was like two racists troops saying f.u. in a black ghetto. It might be. I just doubt so.
            The Cyclops having only one eye, needed to seek shelter from the harsh sun. The shadow cast by the spheres gave him temporary respite.

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              The reporters were chosing to accept that health risk just by being there. The fact that it is even someone's job to keep the reporters away when a court ruled that they had the legal right to be there, regardless of the health risks, would also be quite telling, whether the threat is empty or not.

              I could care less about the guys ****ing on the side of the house, it's the fact that this government is violating the law that deserves to be looked into. I can understand not allowing photos out of respect for the dead, but to make threats against even covering the tragedy? What business to these bastards have trying to censor the media, especially considering a court ruled in the media's favor?
              The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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                #8
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                I can't help but think maybe it's not just the bodies they're trying to cover up? Perhaps something else has arisen that they are trying to keep under wraps for whatever reason? True, the media should be able to cover whatever they deem worthy, but in complete honesty, can we trust the media to say, keep the cameras off when bodies come by? Journalists aren't known for their honesty when it comes between them and a story.
                Do what you wish

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                  #9
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                  What were the details of of the lawsuit? What court was it in? Sorry but screw the 1st ammendment. The one thing New Orleans doesn't need right now is to have a bunch of reporters getting in the way.

                  Besides they aren't censoring the media. They're just not giving them access to the site of a natural disaster. 300 meters sounds reasonable. Probably not to some reporter trying to get the big story, but screw him.

                  Without seeing the details of the lawsuit and what exactly the decision was based on I can't condem them for trying to keep the media out of the way.
                  The Cyclops having only one eye, needed to seek shelter from the harsh sun. The shadow cast by the spheres gave him temporary respite.

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                    There are proably sancations saying you couldn't be in the area, and my question is why a red beret is there. I remeber Red beret being combat controller which doesn't seem like anywhere near their job description. Unless of course he was there to signal plane or helicopter to come, or Airborne uses red beret also.

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                      #11
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                      I don't think this is a problem seeing how the media has already caused many problems with this whole incident.

                      As of lately I can't stand to turn on the tv and watch the news. Its like every news channel is immitating what michael moore does. If they can't do that then they report on something utterly stupid, like a cat falling down a well.

                      Props to the people keeping the media out of this.
                      If you don’t like the Revolution controller, you are fundamentally part of the problem and killing the ****ing art form. ~Kieron Gillen

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                        #12
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                        Personally, if I was a survivor still in the city, and I saw reporters, I'd smack them over the heads with a shovel and dump the bodies in the water. Who cares if the hurricane death count is a little inflated? If enough reporters die covering the story, and are counted as hurricane casualties, they might just reach 10,000 dead, like the news keeps saying there will be. Maybe that's their goal.

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                          #13
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                          I have no problem with anything written in this article.

                          You're looking for faults.

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                            #14
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                            Aw, you guys all beat me to it!

                            I'll just say this: Terr, everything isn't black and white.

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                              #15
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                              I think they should at least be able to report what's going on. Since the government and FEMA did such a horrible job responding to the crisis, it's only fair to show how much of an impact their actions had. What have they got to hide? What are they afraid of? The people affected by this are already outraged, so I guess they don't want the rest of the county to feel the same way?

                              The truth hurts. But I still want the truth. I don't need pictures, but you can tell me what's going on. They do the same thing any other time, any other place.

                              And since when has the media been sensitive to tragedy? I've seen people die on national news/television. FOX news showed people jumping from the twin towers. How can this be any worse?
                              Eat Smello.

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