New song...

[Ωbright]

Here it is...just uploaded on soundclick.

Savage Ohms

Please let me know what you think! I know it's not fantastic or anything.

[Nixon]

Re: New song...

It's a good tune, although it doesn't have too much going on. I think it might be slightly moodier and more ambient sounding if you messed with the way that squishy sample comes in at first, maybe giving a little more time before it starts in, and playing with it a bit more once it's there.

But I don't know anything about anything, so there's no need to pay much attention to what I say.

Regardless, I always like your music.

[Ωbright]

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No! I appreciate all the feedback I can get!

Music is not really my thing...art is my thing. But I love music, and I love making music. I just wonder if I should stop subjecting the world to it.

With my art, I know what works and what doesn't, and why. With music I'm just winging it. I know I like breakbeat-type rhythms, and using samples, and I like the way patterns combine when you put them together with other patterns (that could be speech patterns also).

Other than that? I have no idea what I'm doing. I mean, I know how to work my programs and hardware, but the hammer's not building the house, it's just attaching boards together with nails. Come to think of it, I'm really winging it with art too, a lot of the time...but for some reason I kinda get away with it more often. Maybe that's the difference?

Luck?

Ha ha, I'm luckier with art. I'm going to start telling people that.

With art I'm doing my own thing and enjoying it, but with music I find myself screaming "Why can't I make a beat like Jack Dangers?" or "When am I going to be able to produce a track as deep and interesting as anything Autechre squeezes out of their ass?"

And that's bull****. I guess I was able to find my own path in art, but I don't feel like I've blazed any trails in music. I have felt like that, but then I hear a song by Yello recoded in 1983...when I was 12...that said the same thing (only better), and I'm humbled.

Here's one you might know, Yam...track 5 from Satyricon by MBM (Your Mind Belongs to the State). That is a pretty direct example of what I'm trying to do with my music. And it's somebody else's. Isn't that sad? I've been making music as Savage Ohms since the late 80's, and I still find myself having to add things like "If you like Coil, Meat Beat Manifesto, or Skinny Puppy, then..." to my descriptions. I have to stop doing that...my music doesn't even sound like any of those bands.

Or maybe my art and music are about the same, only I can be normal with my art, but with my music I'm neurotic and compose long-winded responses about it?

[EDIT] And I rework my music to death, as I've just done. There just wasn't enough bass...it needed more punch. But it's really hard to get that just right without blowing the whole thing up.

[Nixon]

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I think you should always make music, as long as you have the desire to do so. It's kind of like art: even if no one ever sees it, you should just make it anyway if that's what you want and it makes you happy.

I get stuck in the same trap of comparing my work to the work of artists who have inspired me along the way, and I always come up short, too. But I think that's okay, it's another reason we keep pushing ourselves creatively. We always want to improve.

[Ωbright]

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In my comparisons to making music, I hope I didn't come across like I was some kind of art master or something. I guess it's just that I know my limitations, and can stand by them with more confidence with art? "That's just makes me what I am, and therefore makes my artwork what it is" kind of thing? I like a good critique & all (or even a bad one), but... People either like it or they don't, but I don't ever feel embarrassed or anything by it. For some reason I'm like "Oh god...did I really just upload that?" much more often with music.

[Ωbright]

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Sorry to bump, but...

THANK YOU to everyone who played the song! You helped it make #2 on the IDM chart at SoundClick, out of like 7,600 songs (+/-)!

Yay!

[highwind]

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The water sounds like peeing!

But it's neat - I dig ambient stuff

[Ωbright]

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A friend of mine on fb said it either sounded like that, or a really long bong hit.

But I'm glad you liked it. Thanks!

A klepsedra is an ancient Greek water clock, which worked when water trickled in a stream like that. That's kind of why the water is there for the entire song.

I'm beginning to agree with Nixon that it needs something else. I mean I always thought it possible, but I was trying to do that minimal, elemental kind of zen thing. LOL! That made no sense at all.

Some people on another board said it had no bass part to speak of, and suffered from that. I did another mix where I tried to bring out the bass a little bit, but I honestly don't know if it's an improvement or not. I think maybe I should stop working on this one for a while, and start on another one. I can come back to this with fresh ears later.