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    An open letter to the Pavilion

    I'm making this topic to answer Perv's question so as not to de-rail the topic.

    Why am I so pessimistic? It's because I'm so frustrated with everything. I'm frustrated that Agetec hasn't, and is not going to, release another console RPG Maker, I'm frustrated with the this forum; I'm frustrated with my time spent here, and I'm frustrated with you people.

    When you said (Perv) that this forum is sometime jokingly referred to as being filled with a bunch of jaded pessimists, it isn't no joke. I've spent three plus years here, and I'm here to say that what you said is 100% true. I've tried to be upbeat here in the past, but it hasn't gotten me anywhere. Instead, I was shot and dragged down by you people. I was never given any respect in the time I spent here, and since then I've given up trying to earn it. I've tried giving respect to other people, but only to be shunned and made fun of. This forum is filled with a bunch of a-holes, and you know who you are. Most of the people here I've liked are gone now, and so there's increasing little reason to keep coming back here time and time again.

    And I hate the way this place is ran. To be blunt, the rules here suck, and there isn't enough of them to keep people in check. This place is falling apart year after year, and there isn't a whole lot that can be done about it. Without a new RPG Maker, everything done here becomes irrelevent, including all the site improvments.

    I'm bitter. I'm bitter about my whole experience here. Nothing seems to be going the way I'd like to have it. But, that's the way this place is, and I'm a fool to think any differently. Nothing is going to change, and it's going to continue to be this way until Agetec stops sending Valk money to run the site each month and he can't afford to keep this place going. Any problems I have with this site are of my own fault, and will continue to be until I leave.
    Last edited by Zeroth; 05-20-2010, 03:10 AM.
    Twothorp was in immense pain. The blisters did not care.

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    Re: An open letter to the Pavilion

    If you drew a pie chart representing your social life, how large would the slice of pie be that represented the pavilion?

    If the answer is anything more than a meager sliver, you have a problem.

    This is an internet forum. This is not a real social situation. You're taking it too seriously.
    Last edited by Sampson; 05-20-2010, 03:51 AM.

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      Re: An open letter to the Pavilion

      Originally posted by Sampson View Post
      If you drew a pie chart representing your social life, how large would the slice of pie be that represented the pavilion?

      If the answer is anything more than a meager sliver, you have a problem.

      This is an internet forum. This is not a real social situation. You're taking it too seriously.
      What if the chart looks like this?






      Originally posted by Zeroth View Post
      until Agetec stops sending Valk money to run the site each month and he can't afford to keep this place going. Any problems I have with this site are of my own fault, and will continue to be until I leave.
      Forgive me if I am wrong but Agetec doesn't send Valk any money. In fact at one point in time I think a few donations from some people helped Valk just to keep the site afloat IIRC. The site tried advertising but someone abused it. I could have sworn that Valk owns the server and pays for it.
      Last edited by Red Dragon; 05-20-2010, 04:04 AM.

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        #4
        Re: An open letter to the Pavilion

        What if the chart looks like this?
        It probably does for several people here, but I won't name names.

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          Re: An open letter to the Pavilion

          Originally posted by Sampson View Post
          If you drew a pie chart representing your social life, how large would the slice of pie be that represented the pavilion?

          If the answer is anything more than a meager sliver, you have a problem.

          This is an internet forum. This is not a real social situation. You're taking it too seriously.
          The way I post on here is a reflection of the way I feel about this site, and I am in no way like this in real life, or on any other internet forum.
          Twothorp was in immense pain. The blisters did not care.

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            #6
            Re: An open letter to the Pavilion

            Originally posted by Sampson View Post
            It probably does for several people here, but I won't name names.
            nom nom nom

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              Re: An open letter to the Pavilion

              First off, I just removed your advisor status. Why? You're not someone I feel should be advising anyone. on anything. especially not me, with how this site is run.

              Nothing is going to change, and it's going to continue to be this way until Agetec stops sending Valk money to run the site each month and he can't afford to keep this place going.
              Where the hell does this idea come from?

              Agetec doesnt pay for the pavilion. They never have. Well, no. that's not entirely true. Mark Johnson paid for our EZboard gold status once.

              I'm frustrated that Agetec hasn't, and is not going to, release another console RPG Maker
              What are they supposed to release?

              Let's count the console installments that enterbrain has released since our RPG Maker 3. Okay, that was fast.

              Keep blaming Agetec. It makes you look really cool.

              I'm frustrated with the this forum; I'm frustrated with my time spent here, and I'm frustrated with you people.
              If you're frustrated with this forum and the people here, leave. Quit trying to drag others down with you. You're just another in a long line of people who just don't "get" this place.

              And I hate the way this place is ran. To be blunt, the rules here suck, and there isn't enough of them to keep people in check.
              The rules here are good, and keep this place the way we like it. More rules? ugh. no. it's fine as-is.

              This place is falling apart year after year,
              You said this sentence 9 years too late. "Teh pav is dying" is soooo 2001.

              and there isn't a whole lot that can be done about it.
              I fixed it in 2005. It remains fixed. so... ???

              Without a new RPG Maker, everything done here becomes irrelevent, including all the site improvments.
              Largest increase in download counters in the first half of the year since 2007. RPG Maker users are still registering. RPGM1 demos from 10 years ago can go up on the site with no creator listed, no information other than a title, and still recieve 8 downloads each in 20 days.

              Sorry if no one really cares about what you're saying... well, no. not sorry. we've seen this sort of whine-fest before. many times. it used to be funny. now, as we're about to hit our 10th anniversary, it's just going to be shrugged off.
              Last edited by Valkysas; 05-20-2010, 04:59 AM.



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                Re: An open letter to the Pavilion

                Originally posted by Zeroth View Post
                The way I post on here is a reflection of the way I feel about this site, and I am in no way like this in real life, or on any other internet forum.
                I didn't mean to imply that this was like your real life persona or anything.

                Just the fact that you've actually thought about and taken the time to write a post like this decrying the fact that you aren't "getting respect here" and are "made fun of" tells me that you have some kind of deep emotional attachment to this place.

                The fact that you don't get respect here really shouldn't matter to you. And if it truly does, then you probably should stop posting.

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                  I was waiting for the 10th anniversary to roll this out, but now seems like a good time too.



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                    #10
                    Re: An open letter to the Pavilion

                    If you leave, then they win man


                    THEY ****ING WIN.
                    "Pardon me, I have nothing to say!" -George Carlin

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                      #11
                      Re: An open letter to the Pavilion

                      10 years? Really.

                      I really think we'll still all be here in another 10.

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                        Originally posted by Zeroth View Post
                        The way I post on here is a reflection of the way I feel about this site, and I am in no way like this in real life, or on any other internet forum.
                        To quote the internet, "You're doing it wrong."
                        "Mindless killing doesn't do a lot for me anymore." - Sampson

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                          #13
                          Re: An open letter to the Pavilion

                          "Dear Pavilion, I suck and you suck. When are we going to stop sucking? It's all your fault."
                          ...and that's why.

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                            #14
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                            I think it's pretty difficult to have respect for someone who handles things as immaturely as you do. You take things a little too seriously and have a penchant for being passive-aggressive and as such, I think it's only fair to blame your experience here solely on you.



                            Don't copy that floppy!

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                              #15
                              Re: An open letter to the Pavilion

                              This site is awesome, and as long as the administration remains or there is a good enough admin to replace them, the Pavilion will be around for a loooooooooooong time. Even if an RPG Maker is never released, there is still a great deal of enthusiasm toward the other RPG Makers! And it's a great general discussion forum.

                              And Zeroth, even if the people here are pessimists, that doesn't make this site any worse, why, because I am a pessimist myself. And I enjoy communicating with people of my own interests and ideas about the world. And if you can't handle the "pessimism" of the Pavilion, you can leave! I won't leave any time soon! The site administrators won't leave any time soon!

                              LONG LIVE THE PAVILION!!!
                              Snake?...Snake?SNAKE!!!

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