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Valkysas
04-28-2010, 05:13 PM
http://www.nme.com/movies/news/twilights-robert-pattinson/170254

Twilight's leading man Robert Pattinson (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1500155/) is set to play Kurt Cobain (http://www.nme.com/artists/kurt-cobain) in a forthcoming biopic. The Sun (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2925411/Robert-Pattinson-to-play-Kurt-Cobain-in-a-Hollywood-biopic.html) reports that the British actor - known as R-Patz to his teen fans - has landed his "dream role" in the part of the Nirvana (http://www.nme.com/artists/nirvana) frontman.

Pattinson apparently "has always thought of himself as a musician rather than an actor" and so the role is "ideal for the pin-up", according to the paper's source.

A long-standing sticking point in any potential biopic has been Cobain's widow, Courtney Love (http://www.nme.com/artists/courtney-love), however it is suggested the singer will have a "key role" in the project by Universal Pictures, and she has been in regular contact with Pattinson.

Scarlett Johansson is rumoured to be the Hole (http://www.nme.com/artists/hole) frontwoman's first choice to play her.

David Fincher - the Fight Club director currently working on The Social Network, a film about the founding of Facebook - is believed to be in line to direct.

It was reported in February that Oren Moverman, writer and director of the double Oscar-nominated The Messenger, was lined up to take over a another Cobain-based project, with the brief of rewriting the script and then directing.

That film was said to be based partially on Charles R Cross' biography Heavier Than Heaven, which Love had already optioned.

Big Rick Cook
04-28-2010, 05:17 PM
I thought they killed that rumor already. =V

Caciss
04-28-2010, 05:19 PM
scarlett johanson is much to attractive to play courtney love

Big Rick Cook
04-28-2010, 05:25 PM
http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/04/15/courtney-love-thinks-the-idea-of-robert-pattinson-playing-kurt-cobain-is-stupid-who-should-portray-the-nirvana-frontman/

John Mora
04-28-2010, 05:48 PM
Haven't there already been a couple Kurt Cobain biopics? Why get all bent out of shape about this one?

Big Rick Cook
04-28-2010, 05:49 PM
Because Pattinson is like the polar opposite of Cobain.

John Mora
04-28-2010, 05:49 PM
I guess that's where the acting would come in.

Big Rick Cook
04-28-2010, 05:50 PM
lack of

Caciss
04-28-2010, 05:52 PM
didn't gus van sant make one?

John Mora
04-28-2010, 05:52 PM
Yes.

Duel
04-28-2010, 06:58 PM
Robert Pattinson...as Cobain. WHY!?

highwind
04-28-2010, 07:08 PM
that was a rumor.

and it's false.

http://www.spin.com/articles/robert-pattinson-not-confirmed-play-kurt-cobain

Valkysas
04-28-2010, 07:13 PM
awww. :(

Perversion
04-28-2010, 09:39 PM
scarlett johanson is much to attractive to play courtney love


Take Mena Suvari or Brittany Murphy (if she was still alive), make them look like they did in Spun, and either would be perfect for the role.


Also, have you seen Cameron Diaz in Being John Malkovich or Charlize Theron in Monster? It CAN be done.


As well, Scarlett Johanson's breasts are too big. Not too big to convincingly play Courtney Love per se. Just too big in general.

SirTMagus
04-28-2010, 10:03 PM
No, they are perfect.

...

R-PATZ?!?!

Big Rick Cook
04-28-2010, 10:10 PM
As well, Scarlett Johanson's breasts are too big. Not too big to convincingly play Courtney Love per se. Just too big in general.

This from the guy who accidentally bought a loli witch-poking game.

Cutter De Blanc
04-28-2010, 10:17 PM
I guess that's where the acting would come in.

He said he doesn't think of himself as an actor!

The_Real_Crunk
04-29-2010, 12:14 AM
the guy who directed Fight Club, one of the greatest movies ever, making a film about the founding of Facebook

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd86/THEREALCRUNK/bobbyhilldrugs.jpg

John Mora
04-29-2010, 12:22 AM
Ridley Scott's making a movie about MONOPOLY, but I guess his failures outnumber his successes by now.

Dreamknight
04-29-2010, 09:15 AM
After Benjamin Button David fincher can just go off and do whatever the hell he wants.

Whatever.

Caciss
04-29-2010, 12:46 PM
I haaate ridley scott.

John Mora
04-29-2010, 01:36 PM
I certainly haven't enjoyed much of anything he's made over the past 25 years.

SirTMagus
04-29-2010, 02:08 PM
*ahem*

John Mora
04-29-2010, 02:19 PM
What?

highwind
04-29-2010, 03:29 PM
http://ginchyguide.frequency13.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/phoenix-gladiator.jpg

Duel
04-29-2010, 04:01 PM
That Robin Hood movie looks dumb

Biggie
04-29-2010, 04:19 PM
I haaate ridley scott.

Maaaan.

You're crazy.

John Mora
04-29-2010, 05:10 PM
http://ginchyguide.frequency13.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/phoenix-gladiator.jpg

Big dumb stupid movie.

Perversion
04-29-2010, 05:17 PM
http://ginchyguide.frequency13.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/phoenix-gladiator.jpg


Meh.


But yeah, ever since Alien and Bladerunner, really, what has he done?

John Mora
04-29-2010, 05:19 PM
Legend and that's it.

Biggie
04-29-2010, 06:07 PM
Gladiator, American Gangster, Hannibal, Black Hawk Down... and that's just off the top of my head.

John Mora
04-29-2010, 06:11 PM
Yeah, but I don't like any of those.

Biggie
04-29-2010, 06:25 PM
WELL I DO

Big Rick Cook
04-29-2010, 06:33 PM
It's occurred to me that this was just one of those stupid Hollywood moves that was designed solely to generate buzz for an actor/movie, because any publicity is good publicity in Hollywood.

So I'm not talking about Pattinson anymore. =V

Perversion
04-29-2010, 06:55 PM
I agree with Mora on this one.


All those movies Figboot listed are fair to middling at best.

The Toecutter
04-29-2010, 07:57 PM
Nothing that Ridley Scott has done since Blade Runner has been anything near as imaginative, IMO.

Dreamknight
04-29-2010, 08:04 PM
I loved American Gangster, **** all y'all.

American Hero
04-29-2010, 09:21 PM
Apparently I am of fan of this man, all these movies are in my collection. And my collection only consists of porn and great movies.

The_Real_Crunk
04-29-2010, 10:16 PM
You guys dont like Gladiator?! What the hell.

LunarWingCloud
04-29-2010, 10:25 PM
My friend who's a huge fan of Nirvana and hates Twilight will not like this.

Perversion
04-29-2010, 10:32 PM
Actually, he will, because apparently, it was only a rumor, and apparently, the rumor has subsequently been quashed.

that was a rumor.

and it's false.

http://www.spin.com/articles/robert-pattinson-not-confirmed-play-kurt-cobain


EDIT: Gladiator was aight. I didn't HATE watching it the one time that I did, but I've not had a burning desire to ever view it again.

SirTMagus
04-30-2010, 01:02 AM
I might as well yell into a jar, but here we go:

- gladiator isn't terrible, but it's ridiculous how hollywood still jerks it off, including Scott with Robin Hood

- hannibal is equal parts funny, stupid and disturbing. somehow. also, dat cinematography, dat soundtrack.

- black hawk down is as prescient and disturbing as blade runner is (or was), but it's ridiculous how videogamewood (olol) still jerks it off herda derp

- matchstick men had sam rockwell and alison lohman acting. yup.

- kingdom of heaven was a mess in theaters, but its director's cut is an old-style epic that's kind of ****in' great. SOUND FAMILIARRR??? :VVV

- a good year was a piece of ****, yeah

- american gangster is absorbing as **** and came out in 2007: The Year All Cinema Held Us So Gently In Its Warming, Loving, Loving Glow. I dunno, i wrote a whole review about this a while ago.

- body of lies was mediocre.

- robin hood looks misleading and dull. i'm sure the trailer is like, the one or two fight scenes at the beginning and end of the movie and the whole middle of it is just russell crowe whisper-growling to everyone. but i'll check it out on dvd later anyway buuruaflalfhfd


Smarter Guys Than Me say:
(http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/interview-with-mike-davis-part-1.html)


BLDGBLOG: What kind of imaginative role do you see slums playing today? On the one hand, there's a kind of CIA-inspired vision of irrational anti-Americanism, mere breeding grounds for terrorism; on the other, you find books like The Constant Gardener, in which the Third World poor are portrayed as innocent, naive, and totally unthreatening, patiently awaiting their liberal salvation. Whose imagination is it in which these fantasies play out?

Davis: I think, actually, that if Blade Runner was once the imaginative icon of our urban future, then the Blade Runner of this generation is Black Hawk Down – a movie I must admit I’m drawn to to see again and again. Just the choreography of it – the staging of it – is stunning. But I think that film really is the cinematic icon for this new frontier of civilization: the “white man’s burden” of the urban slum and its videogame-like menacing armies, with their RPGs in hand, battling heroic techno-warriors and Delta Force Army Rangers. It’s a profound military fantasy. I don’t think any movie since The Sands of Iwo Jima has enlisted more kids in the Marines than Black Hawk Down. In a moral sense, of course, it’s a terrifying film, because it's an arcade game – and who could possibly count all the Somalis that are killed?

BLDGBLOG: It’s even filmed like a first-person shooter. Several times you're actually watching from right behind the gun.

Davis: It’s by Ridley Scott, isn’t it?

BLDGBLOG: Yeah – which is interesting, because he also directed Blade Runner.

Davis: Exactly. And he did Black Rain, didn’t he?

BLDGBLOG: The cryptic threat of late-1980s Japan…

Davis: Ridley Scott – more than anyone in Hollywood – has really defined the alien Other.

or not whatever RIDLEY SCOTT SUCKS DUHHHHHHHHHHHH

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DUHHHH

DUHHHHH

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t83/sirtmagus2/THE%20FUTURE/spongebob.jpg

John Mora
04-30-2010, 02:03 AM
If I didn't enjoy them, I didn't enjoy them. What do you want from me?

SirTMagus
04-30-2010, 02:11 AM
A jar for me to yell into.

The_Real_Crunk
04-30-2010, 02:31 AM
I did not enjoy blackhawk down. :I

SirTMagus
04-30-2010, 03:15 AM
...You?


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t83/sirtmagus2/THE%20FUTURE/pattinson.jpg

Biggie
04-30-2010, 03:21 AM
Yeah, but I don't like any of those.

I agree with Mora on this one.


All those movies Figboot listed are fair to middling at best.
Edit: swearing~~~

Caciss
04-30-2010, 09:19 AM
I just honestly haven't really enjoyed any Ridley Scott film I've ever seen, that includes Blade Runner. American Gangster was **** terrible.

My friend recently confided in me he hated Ridley Scott, expect me to call him an idiot, but I was like, THIS IS WHY WE'RE FRIENDS.

John Mora
04-30-2010, 11:46 AM
I'm now convinced that no one actually likes Ridley Scott, but believes everyone else likes him, so they pretend to in order to fit in.

Perversion
04-30-2010, 12:55 PM
The same could probably be said for Darren Aronofsky.


I would also hesitate to say Fincher and Nolan as well, but the difference is, both of them make actual good films.

Big Rick Cook
04-30-2010, 12:58 PM
I would also hesitate to say Fincher and Nolan as well, but the difference is, both of them make actual good films.

Or you guys are pretentious prats hating on OTHER pretentious prats who happen to have a different idea of pretension. =V

I'm going with that one.

John Mora
04-30-2010, 01:45 PM
I like The Fountain, Requiem for a Dream and The Wrestler~

Ridley Scott's been a bore to me, though.

SirTMagus
04-30-2010, 02:16 PM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t83/sirtmagus2/THE%20FUTURE/babybrains.jpg

John Mora
04-30-2010, 04:13 PM
We've reduced Magus to posting Captain N screenshots.

I-Incredible~

Biggie
04-30-2010, 04:48 PM
I'm now convinced that no one actually likes Ridley Scott, but believes everyone else likes him, so they pretend to in order to fit in.

what kind of losers do you hang out with?

John Mora
04-30-2010, 06:15 PM
All you guys. :3

IamPinhead
04-30-2010, 06:20 PM
I agree with Mora on this one.


All those movies Figboot listed are fair to middling at best.

http://www.insidesocal.com/outinhollywood/,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hopkins.jpg
I'll give you Black Hawk Down. But c'mon, Gladiator, Hannibal, Body of Lies? Good movies. No movie is going to top Blade Runner or Alien(s), it's like saying "Oh, well, Citizen Kane was by far better, so this movie can't be good."
But making a movie about Facebook or Kurt Cobain is stupid. Especially about Facebook, and especially if the Kurt Cobain movie were to ever star R-Patz.

John Mora
04-30-2010, 06:21 PM
Hannibal was so goofy and silly it basically ran in the opposite direction from Silence of the Lambs. And didn't end up being very good, with a low-rent Clarice Starling.

highwind
04-30-2010, 07:05 PM
alien was scott.

aliens was avatar boy.

Perversion
04-30-2010, 08:01 PM
Scott's Alien is still, to me, the best one in the franchise, and also the best film that he's ever done. To this day, it's still in my top 15 of all time, possibly even top ten.

John Mora
04-30-2010, 10:41 PM
I think I might prefer Alien, but Aliens is a great flick, too. It's almost too close to call.

Chrono
04-30-2010, 11:32 PM
I've enjoyed quite a bit of Scott's work, and own many of his films.

The Duellists is also good.

IamPinhead
04-30-2010, 11:41 PM
I think I might prefer Alien, but Aliens is a great flick, too. It's almost too close to call.

I would like Alien more, but it's too slow and quiet for me. It's like 2001: A Space Odyssey, but less acid trip and more "let's make everything really soft and dark."
The Hannibal scene with the brain eating was....shameful.

Perversion
05-01-2010, 02:17 AM
To each his own, of course, but Alien was never meant to be fast-paced. It's almost done in the framework of a psychological horror film, but in a sci-fi setting. It's more about mood and atmosphere, and getting into the heads of the seven crew members, how they relate to one another, and how they react in the face of the horror they encounter.


I guess being brought up in an era of sci-fi films where it's all gun battles and explosions, and horror films where it's constant gore and gratutitous shock value, the impact of the film may be lost on you to an extent. But to go from the daily lives of a ship's crew to an ominous distress call to a VERY quick implant of the facehugger, and slowly build up the suspense to the infamous chest burster scene...at the time, there was no other film that attempted anything close to this.


I dunno. To this day, it's still one of the creepiest films I've ever seen, aside from Repulsion. Which you would not like either, as it's even slower than this one. But again, it's a psychological horror film.

The Toecutter
05-01-2010, 07:59 AM
Facehuggers are adorable! <3

Goufunaki
05-01-2010, 11:05 AM
They're fun for the whole family!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Gouki22/misc3/facehugger-300x210.jpg

Big Rick Cook
05-01-2010, 11:54 AM
I guess being brought up in an era of sci-fi films where it's all gun battles and explosions, and horror films where it's constant gore and gratutitous shock value, the impact of the film may be lost on you to an extent.

This is Pinhead we're talking about.

Perversion
05-01-2010, 03:07 PM
Oh, yeah. I guess in his case, none of that makes a difference.

Big Rick Cook
05-01-2010, 03:15 PM
No, it's a foregone conclusion considering his proclaimed interests to date. =V

Duckroll
05-01-2010, 03:23 PM
I don't even like Nirvana and I can tell R-patz being Kurt Cobain is terribly wrong.

IamPinhead
05-01-2010, 06:52 PM
To each his own, of course, but Alien was never meant to be fast-paced. It's almost done in the framework of a psychological horror film, but in a sci-fi setting. It's more about mood and atmosphere, and getting into the heads of the seven crew members, how they relate to one another, and how they react in the face of the horror they encounter.


I guess being brought up in an era of sci-fi films where it's all gun battles and explosions, and horror films where it's constant gore and gratutitous shock value, the impact of the film may be lost on you to an extent. But to go from the daily lives of a ship's crew to an ominous distress call to a VERY quick implant of the facehugger, and slowly build up the suspense to the infamous chest burster scene...at the time, there was no other film that attempted anything close to this.


I dunno. To this day, it's still one of the creepiest films I've ever seen, aside from Repulsion. Which you would not like either, as it's even slower than this one. But again, it's a psychological horror film.
I see what you mean, and I'll agree that it's creepy, but it just seems like such a change between Alien and Aliens. What I liked more about Aliens was not only the pace, but that there was the suspense which I enjoyed from Alien. Not as much, but I felt it an improvement.
This is Pinhead we're talking about.
Yep, way cooler to be a pretentious dick about films and find action movies tasteless because wearing a turtle neck while watching it would seem out of place. Watching action movies and horror movies that aren't two hours of harsh whispering doesn't make anybody an idiot. Just because a movie has a lot of meaning, or is difficult to understand, doesn't make it by any stretch a good one.

Perversion
05-01-2010, 08:19 PM
...because wearing a turtle neck while watching it...

We're not in France in the 60s. We don't wear berets, either.

Just because a movie has a lot of meaning, or is difficult to understand, doesn't make it by any stretch a good one.

No, but it certainly helps.


Also, I'm laying a challenge down for you right now, Pinhead. Via any means necessary, view the film Funny Games, and come back and tell us what you think.

Caciss
05-01-2010, 09:54 PM
Without Funny Games meaning, it's not that good. Pretty terrible example, I'd say.

Perversion
05-01-2010, 10:37 PM
I wear a turtleneck and a beret, and I think it's pretty great.


I'm just using that as an example of a non-typical horror film, just to gauge Pinhead's reaction to it.


Plus, have you heard of the book by Marshall McLuhan called, "The Medium is the Massage"? The meaning of the movie lies in the way in which it's conveyed.

Kefka Jr.
05-02-2010, 01:44 AM
[i]R-Patz?!/[i]

John Mora
05-02-2010, 01:53 AM
Without Funny Games meaning, it's not that good. Pretty terrible example, I'd say.

"Without the content, it's not that good."

REALLY? :V

Perversion
05-02-2010, 03:09 AM
I just picked up Caché tonight as a PVT from Blockbuster for $4, and I'd ALMOST have to say I liked it more than Funny Games. Might take a few more viewings, though.


http://www.pavilionboards.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=54&pictureid=826

EDIT

:Pinhead

Cutter De Blanc
05-02-2010, 05:50 AM
I think Kurt Cobain is cooler than Aliens.

Big Rick Cook
05-02-2010, 12:51 PM
Yep, way cooler to be a pretentious dick about films and find action movies tasteless because wearing a turtle neck while watching it would seem out of place. Watching action movies and horror movies that aren't two hours of harsh whispering doesn't make anybody an idiot. Just because a movie has a lot of meaning, or is difficult to understand, doesn't make it by any stretch a good one.

Action movies and horror movies compel our baser emotions and instincts, especially the movies that aren't designed to be anything but a simple action or horror flick. If it satisfies your craving for cheap scares, cheap guts, cheap explosions, then yay for you. Sometimes all I want is a mindless eye-candy romp, too.

Now I can simply watch Avatar when I want that.

IamPinhead
05-03-2010, 02:22 AM
I just picked up Caché tonight as a PVT from Blockbuster for $4, and I'd ALMOST have to say I liked it more than Funny Games. Might take a few more viewings, though.


http://www.pavilionboards.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=54&pictureid=826

EDIT

:Pinhead

Thank you Perversion that brightened my day a little bit.

Perversion
05-05-2010, 01:13 AM
:wily



If that's the case, would you give your blessing to make that jpeg an official emote by typing :Pinhead?

Caciss
05-05-2010, 07:47 AM
"Without the content, it's not that good."

REALLY? :V

YES

John Mora
05-05-2010, 12:30 PM
I wouldn't blame you for thinking that!