If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
It's a generation defining movie for me, especially of the '90's. People used to think 9-11 changed everything but it really didn't, and I think the '10's will show that. So many of us follow the empty soulless existences set out for us because we're told it's the right way to go. We find meaning in what we do with our free time, and if our soulless occopations don't allow us free time, then we try to buy meaning. We'll try to eat, drink, buy happiness. I knew I was most likely doomed to this kind of meaningless fate before I joined the rat race. I try to compensate with what I still have control of, and excercise my freedom there.
Is there still hope for us each on an individual level? Of course...but the odds are tough and all that can be asked of us is that we try our best to have a happy meaningful life...then again, some people just don't give a ****.
Merry Christmas everyone! Stop sending me pictures of your kids.
It's a generation defining movie for me, especially of the '90's. People used to think 9-11 changed everything but it really didn't, and I think the '10's will show that. So many of us follow the empty soulless existences set out for us because we're told it's the right way to go. We find meaning in what we do with our free time, and if our soulless occopations don't allow us free time, then we try to buy meaning. We'll try to eat, drink, buy happiness. I knew I was most likely doomed to this kind of meaningless fate before I joined the rat race. I try to compensate with what I still have control of, and excercise my freedom there.
Is there still hope for us each on an individual level? Of course...but the odds are tough and all that can be asked of us is that we try our best to have a happy meaningful life...then again, some people just don't give a ****.
Merry Christmas everyone! Stop sending me pictures of your kids.
Opposition to the consumer culture is not a 1990s thing. It goes way back to at least the hippy movement of the 1960s.
So I guess you could say, Fight Club is a re-branding of the hippy movement? Less sex, more violence?
I guess you can be a Reaganbot and boil it down to "consumerism bad" but it's really not about that...plus I don't care where opposition to consumer culture came from, the '90's and 60's/70's are two different beasts. Y'might as well have said "Simpsons did it!" Since they're similar movements, give me a comparison of Platoon and Office Space.
Here's to ten more years of topping every vapid college kid's "favorite movies" field on facebook along with American History X and Requiem for a Dream!
I guess you can be a Reaganbot and boil it down to "consumerism bad" but it's really not about that...plus I don't care where opposition to consumer culture came from, the '90's and 60's/70's are two different beasts. Y'might as well have said "Simpsons did it!" Since they're similar movements, give me a comparison of Platoon and Office Space.
My point was that the sentiment expressed in the film was not new. You said it was generation defining but I kind of disagree.
It's definitely a modern day spin on the concepts of post-materialism, which was a movement that arose in the 1960s. Tyler Durden's terrorist plots are similar to those of the Weatherman Underground and similar 60s/70s radical groups.
I'm not trying to degrade the film or the book behind it--I enjoyed both. Just the sentiments that they express have been around for quite some time.
I'm also with you on 9/11 not really changing anything. Rather, it will the collapse of the US empire and resulting poverty that will overtake the US that will redefine us--it'll be hard to be post-materialist when you can't even be materialist anymore.
While it might be a favorite of college bros, there's no reason Fight Club (or Requiem for a Dream, or Donnie Darko, etc.) can't be appreciated on their own. It's an incredibly stylized look at some interesting philosophical ideas with a killer plot twist. It's not the BEST MOVIE EVER, but it's a damn good one that's as enjoyable as it is cinematically meritous.
I'm also with you on 9/11 not really changing anything. Rather, it will the collapse of the US empire and resulting poverty that will overtake the US that will redefine us--it'll be hard to be post-materialist when you can't even be materialist anymore.
Points taken, but c'mon...if anything, the U.S. will fall in stature, not become Road Warrior / Fallout territory.
Yeah, about Fight Club...saw it opening day, bought the double disc DVD the day it came out, and just bought the Blu-Ray release week. I really like the movie, but am a bit dismayed that everyone jumped on the hype bandwagon about a year too late, and probably don't quite understand everything about the movie.
Same with Requiem. Saw it 2 weeks before release theatrically, and now everyone jumped on that bandwagon. As good as Requiem is, those same "fans" really need to see Last Exit to Brooklyn, another film based on a Hubery Selby Jr. novel. It's not as stylish, nor does it contain anything close to the sustained intensity of the final 15 minutes of Requiem, but in the long run, I think it's a bit more profoundly affecting. Requiem is intense, but Last Exit is more emotionally brutal and punishing.
Comment