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    Your top five underrated/under-regarded films

    So name the top five movies that you love, but think are underrated or under-regarded by the general populace (or even just the Pavvie population). Reasoning would be helpful.

    In no particular order:

    Being John Malkovich-I saw this at the theater when it first came out, knowing that it was gonna be all about weirdness. I left the theater thinking that the movie scored on the weirdness front, but that it was just weird for the sake of being weird.

    Then I watched it another dozen or so times, and came to realize how brilliantly deep the film actually is. Buried under all the overt strangeness is a look at fame, individuality, gender, and what it means to be a human in this "winter economic climate." How does one define him or herself? How does one define one's gender? Are these definitions fixed or arbitrary? How does fame affect one's self-identification? And that's not even getting into the whole "metaphysical can of worms" the film brings up with shifting consciousness from one corporeal form to another. Yeah, the word brilliant is extremely overused, but I think this film delivers on the expectations of that word.


    Series 7: The Contenders-Besides my RPGM games deriving their titles from this film, this is criminally underrated. Reality TV was just beginning to sprout its wings when this film hit theaters. MTV had already established the genre with The Real World, and more and more reality-based television programs were beginning to air, albeit not like the glut today. This film was made to resemble a marathon of the titular TV program. The twist is, it's the near-future, and a government mandate dictates that if you are chosen for the program, you need to kill the others chosen for the same "series," and only by winning (ie-not dying) could you get your freedom. The main character is 8 months pregnant when the film begins, and she needs to kill the others in order to keep her baby.

    This sounds like something out of The Running Man, but it's filmed (on video) exactly like modern reality TV, with the live cameras, jump-cut editing, and the candid interviews and (sometimes manufactured) drama. I would call it a spoof or satire, but it's actually black comedy at its finest. Problem is, the sometimes melodramatic scenes are SO well done that what you should realistically be laughing your ass off at, you sometimes take at face value and ARE affected by them. Tragically underseen.


    Jackie Brown-After the phenomenal success of Pulp Fiction, a LOT of people were let down by this. I saw this opening day (Christmas Day), and even though it took a few more viewings, came to realize that as a whole, this is the superior film. And come on, Robert DeNiro playing WAY against type as a stoner, and the overly annoying Chris Tucker making a brief appearance only to get offed...how could this come CLOSE to being bad?

    Mainly, it's because it does not rely on a gimmick (the gimmicky "switch" takes a page from Kubrick's The Killing, but the rest of the film does not rely on it as Pulp Fiction did), and instead is invested in its characters. The "romance," if you wanna call it that, between its two leads is completely believable. Two middle-aged (or a bit older) people who do not "meet cute," but instead meet outside of jail, and exchange realistic dialogue (Tarantino always specializes in dialogue, but with Pulp Fiction, it was more cool machismo...here, it's how people would really talk given their situations) center the narrative in the realm of believability. I could go on and on for another few paragraphs about what makes this movie great, but boiled down to its essentials, it's basically because Tarantino gives his characters the time they need to develop, and the "switch" gimmick is just the cherry on top.


    Slacker-Sure, A Scanner Darkly, Waking Life, Before Sunrise (and arguably Tape) are better films than this, but for a pretty much zero budget film to completely obliterate cinematic convention (Buñuel notwithstanding), and have well-regarded films like Memento and Pulp Fiction follow in its wake, and NOT get recognized borders on tragic. Just for Linklater to come up with this idea (there is no "main" character in the film...the filmic space only follows one particular character or group of characters for mere minutes) and execute it using non-actors on pretty much no budget deserves a huge amount of credit. Plus, if you see this multiple times, it'll surely become one of your most quotable films. The film is not really "good" in the conventional sense of the word, and nothing really even happens (as there is zero plot) throughout the course of the film.

    But it's never less than interesting, and if you start to lose interest in one character or characters (the car enthusiasts or the Madonna pap smear girl, as examples in my case), another one will take his place soon enough (the JFK conspiracy guy, the "You should quit tormenting women with sexual intercourse" woman, the old man who thwarts a robbery by taking the would-be robber for a walk to discuss life). See this back to back with El Mariachi for two zero budget films from the Austin, Texas film scene whose directors went on to bigger things (Linklater's next film was Dazed and Confused and Robert Rodriguez did everything from El Mariachi's remake/sequel Desperado to From Dusk Til Dawn to Spy Kids).


    Repo Man-I'm not really sure what to say about this besides the fact that if you've not seen it, you owe it to yourself to do so. As with Slacker above, this is not a "good" film in the conventional sense of the word, but it is quirky, offbeat, and sometimes hilarious. Any film that has the Circle Jerks crooning off-kilter lounge music, is about punks and aliens, and quotes some obscure Alice in Wonderland nonsense words (and plays them backwards through a phone call, no less) pretty much needs to be seen. Harry Dean Stanton plus Emilio Estevez plus a Dennis Hopper look-alike adds up to win. "You know how everyone's into weirdness right now?"
    Last edited by Perversion; 07-22-2009, 02:15 AM.

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    I dunno why, but Charlie Kaufman seems to have some sort of deep-seated fear that Catherine Keener is a domineering lesbian who will ruin his life.

    And I'd say Series 7 is rated just fine.

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      #3
      Re: Your top five underrated/under-regarded films

      Being John Malkovich is not underrated or under-regarded.

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        #4
        Re: Your top five underrated/under-regarded films

        I think it's under-regarded in terms of, people know it's a good film, but most likely miss all the subtle themes/messages that the film is trying to convey.

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          Equilibrium - Yeah, it obviously heavily borrows from Brave New World, Farenheit 451, and 1980, but hell, I wish more films would. Also, the most important part is that it does it well...plus the Gunkata scenes are downright masterful. It also helps that Bale REALLY carried this movie. The general public has much love for this movie, but for some reason the critics had a major hate-on for it...look at the difference between the imdb and Rotten Tomato scores.

          http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0238380/
          http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/equilibrium/


          Battle For Terra - Yeah, everyone loves Pixar (I myself love Wall-E), but the themes and execution gets a bit stale. This movie had some freaking balls to take a shot at religion and show some morally gray decision making, and for that my hat is off to them.

          http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0858486/
          http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10009859-terra/


          The One - I know it's cheese, but it's good cheese. Plus, I love Jet Li as a bad guy, I wish he did it more often. Hell, that's how he got noticed in the states in the first place (Lethal Weapon 4). Plus, the scenes of him fighting himself were surprisingly well done. "I a YULAW! Nooooo one's *****! YOU are MINE!!!" Classic.

          http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0267804/
          http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1110343-one/
          Last edited by Kire; 07-22-2009, 12:53 PM.

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            Re: Your top five underrated/under-regarded films

            I own 2 import HD-DVDs, one of which is Equilibrium. The chances of this coming out in America on Blu-Ray are slim to none, so not having even seen it yet, I imported it. Visually, the film is amazing. It's literally the best-looking high definition movie I've ever seen. The themes it tries to get across are well-done, but some intangible something about it was just slightly lacking. Cannot put my finger on it. And Bale was decent, but his acting was a bit stiff.


            That being said, it's definitely worth watching.

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              #7
              Re: Your top five underrated/under-regarded films

              I agree with Jackie Brown, it was rather under-regarded.
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                #8
                Re: Your top five underrated/under-regarded films

                The Simpson's Movie
                Back to the Future 3
                Grease 2
                Honey I Shrunk the Kids
                Big Trouble in Little China
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                  Re: Your top five underrated/under-regarded films

                  Originally posted by Perversion View Post
                  The themes it tries to get across are well-done, but some intangible something about it was just slightly lacking. Cannot put my finger on it.
                  The acting and production values. :V

                  Equilibrium is a total B movie that people seem to want to elevate to A status.

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                    #10
                    Re: Your top five underrated/under-regarded films

                    Big Trouble in Little China was another favorite of mine too... I have so many I think are under-rated but I have to think hard for what my "top 5" would be.
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                    Xiahou Dun: "He says he can't die until you do!"
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                      #11
                      Re: Your top five underrated/under-regarded films

                      American Movie.

                      It's a documentary, so I'm not sure it's what you're looking for in this topic, but it's gotta be the best film nobody's seen.
                      Cleric: Provenance

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                        Re: Your top five underrated/under-regarded films

                        JCVD: It stars Jean claude van damme in a pretty series role and a lot of people are turned away just by his name, but it really is a great film that can even get the hardiest of people to tear up.

                        Art school confidential: A pretty good look at how garbage and weird the art community is, it's biggest flaw is it doesn't really want to know what it wants to be. A comedy? a social commentary? a drama? It can't make up it's mind.

                        The host: a pretty darn good monster movie based on a real story.

                        Speed racer: It tanked in the office but it's a fantastic film by itself and makes you really root for the good guys. Also inspector detector.

                        Point break: Never again will there be such a cast with such a concept.
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                          #13
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                          Sunshine

                          Same guy that produced Slumdog millionaire and Trainspotting.

                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_(2007_film)

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                            #14
                            Re: Your top five underrated/under-regarded films

                            just about every move you guys have posted, save for 2 or 3, are like...extremely popular movies...

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                              #15
                              Re: Your top five underrated/under-regarded films

                              Originally posted by highwind View Post
                              just about every move you guys have posted, save for 2 or 3, are like...extremely popular movies...
                              I think the object of the topic is more about of defending movies that are not very well received critically, than about popularity.

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