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    Video Game Law Struck Down

    http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/200902...o_game_lawsuit

    Court strikes down California video game law (AP)
    Posted on Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:38PM EST


    SACRAMENTO, Calif. - A federal appeals court on Friday struck down a California law that sought to ban the sale or rental of violent video games to minors.

    The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the 2005 law violates minors' rights under the Constitution's First and 14th amendments. The three-judge panel's unanimous ruling upholds an earlier ruling in U.S. District Court.

    The law would have prohibited the sale or rental of violent games to anyone under 18. It also would have created strict labeling requirements for video game manufacturers.

    In a written opinion, Judge Consuelo Callahan said there were less restrictive ways to protect children from "unquestionably violent" video games. For example, the justices said the industry has a voluntary rating system and that parents can block certain games on video consoles.

    The law's author, state Sen. Leland Yee, D-San Francisco, said he wanted Attorney General Jerry Brown to appeal the decision to the U.S. Supreme Court.

    "We need to help empower parents with the ultimate decision over whether or not their children play in a world of violence and murder," Yee, a child psychologist, said in a statement.

    A spokesman for Brown said the attorney general would review the decision to determine the appropriate steps.

    California lawmakers had approved the law, in part, by relying on studies suggesting violent games can be linked to aggression, anti-social behavior and desensitization to violence. The justices dismissed that research.

    "None of the research establishes or suggests a causal link between minors playing violent video games and actual psychological or neurological harm, and inferences to that effect would not be reasonable," Callahan said in her ruling.

    The law never took effect and was challenged shortly after it was signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. A U.S. District Court blocked it after the industry sued California over constitutional concerns.

    Schwarzenegger spokeswoman Camille Anderson said the governor was reviewing Friday's ruling.

    "The governor believes strongly we have a responsibility to our children and our communities to protect against the effects of video games depicting ultra-violent actions," she said.

    The Encino-based Video Software Dealers Association, now known as the Entertainment Merchants Association following a merger, and the Washington, D.C.-based Entertainment Software Association argued that California's restrictions could open the door for states to limit minors' access to other material under the guise of protecting children.

    The court agreed, saying California was "asking us to boldly go where no court has gone before."

    "The state, in essence, asks us to create a new category of non-protected material based on its depiction of violence," Callahan wrote in the 30-page ruling.

    Michael D. Gallagher, president of the Entertainment Software Association, said the ruling underscores that parents, with help from the industry, are the ones who should control what games their children play.

    "This is a clear signal that in California and across the country, the reckless pursuit of anti-video game legislation like this is an exercise in wasting taxpayer money, government time and state resources," Gallagher said in a statement.

    Courts in several other states have struck down similar laws.
    So you're a fish out of water...
    Keep swimming.
    What else can you do?

    #2
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    Yay!
    ...and that's why.

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      #3
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      FOR THE VIDYA!
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        #4
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        In yo' face, *****.

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          #5
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          Yup, I was real happy when I saw this, and doubly so that a First Amendment freedom was upheld.


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            #6
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            who cares if kids can't buy violent video games

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              #7
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              Wait wasnt everybody ****** that little Jimmy was able to buy violent video games that made him bring guns to school? I though we wanted to stop that?

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                #8
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                Originally posted by Caciss View Post
                who cares if kids can't buy violent video games
                It would have made it impossible for anyone under 18 to buy violent video games (stricter than the current standard) and forced retailers to separate M-rated games from the rest (so GTA San Andreas would be coupled with Persona 4 instead of with Bully--what sense does that make?)

                Wait wasnt everybody ****** that little Jimmy was able to buy violent video games that made him bring guns to school? I though we wanted to stop that?
                The courts actually did their homework and checked out the research, which shows that 99% of that argument is pure, unadulterated horse****.
                Last edited by Wavelength; 02-23-2009, 11:26 PM.


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                  #9
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                  Originally posted by Wavelength View Post
                  It would have made it impossible for anyone under 18 to buy violent video games (stricter than the current standard) and forced retailers to separate M-rated games from the rest (so GTA San Andreas would be coupled with Persona 4 instead of with Bully--what sense does that make?)
                  Makes perfect sense to me. Underage folks shouldn't be playing these kinds of games. Especially, games like Fallout 3. Love the game, but Jesus Christ on a pogostick does that game ever take violence and gore to another level.
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                    #10
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                    Let's abolish age restrictions at the movie theatre and sell porn to minors too, who gives a ****.
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                      #11
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                      Originally posted by Jamos View Post
                      Makes perfect sense to me. Underage folks shouldn't be playing these kinds of games. Especially, games like Fallout 3. Love the game, but Jesus Christ on a pogostick does that game ever take violence and gore to another level.
                      Originally posted by peachy
                      Let's abolish age restrictions at the movie theatre and sell porn to minors too, who gives a ****.
                      So you like this kind of politically-driven bill that takes the power out of your hands to determine when your child is mature enough to understand art and entertainment, and instead impose an arbitrary age restriction to make the decision for you. That's a little surprising to hear from you guys!


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                        #12
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                        i'm sure there'll be a stupid petition to get the law back up within the week. because people hate kids.


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                          #13
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                          you can still buy the game for your kid if you want!

                          I just could really care less either way, I'm not gonna get my balls in a knot if a 13-year-old can't buy a GTA without his parents doing it for him.

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                            #14
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                            Originally posted by Caciss View Post
                            you can still buy the game for your kid if you want!

                            ...I'm not gonna get my balls in a knot if a 13-year-old can't buy a GTA without his parents doing it for him.
                            You're right about this, but the precedent it sets is more important.

                            1) A Very Feasible Slippery Slope: If this was upheld, maybe we'd have Teen games restricted from kids under 13 next year.

                            2) Freedom of Speech and Expression: ALWAYS nice to see these upheld when said Speech and Expression aren't directly encouraging harm towards a real person.

                            3) Protect Childrens' Freedoms: I mean what's next, not allowing kids to buy fast food? Yeah, their parents COULD do it for them, but at some point you just have to trust people (especially kids) to make decisions for themselves.


                            EDIT: I do realize I'm being a bit of a drama king here, but that in no way invalidates the possibility that worse things would follow if these laws aren't struck down.
                            Last edited by Wavelength; 02-24-2009, 02:26 PM.


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                              #15
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                              Originally posted by Wavelength View Post
                              You're right about this, but the precedent it sets is more important.

                              1) A Very Feasible Slippery Slope: If this was upheld, maybe we'd have Teen games restricted from kids under 13 next year.

                              2) Freedom of Speech and Expression: ALWAYS nice to see these upheld when said Speech and Expression aren't directly encouraging harm towards a real person.

                              3) Protect Childrens' Freedoms: I mean what's next, not allowing kids to buy fast food? Yeah, their parents COULD do it for them, but at some point you just have to trust people (especially kids) to make decisions for themselves.


                              EDIT: I do realize I'm being a bit of a drama king here, but that in no way invalidates the possibility that worse things would follow if these laws aren't struck down.
                              I agree with you, but the Slippery Slope argument is a fallacy, and those cannot be used in any argument.

                              I think the most important reason to not pass the bill is it would create expensive government oversight, and its not necessary. This kind of decision is up to the parents. The government really shouldn't be getting involved in how children are raised, outside of actual abuse/mistreatment.

                              Until a, properly conducted and verifiable, study conclusively shows that violent video games have a detrimental effect on the healthy development of children, this law (and others like it) will be unconstitutional.
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