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    An awesome chain email I received today:

    This is really good. This kid totally owns his professor.



    -----A science professor begins his school year with a lecture to the students,
    'Let me explain the problem science has with religion.' The atheist professor of
    philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.

    'You're a Christian, aren't you, son?'
    'Yes sir,' the student says.

    'So you believe in God?'
    'Absolutely.'

    'Is God good?'
    'Sure! God's good.'

    'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?'
    'Yes.'

    'Are you good or evil?'
    'The Bible says I'm evil.'

    The professor grins knowingly. 'Aha! The Bible!' He considers for a moment.
    'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can
    cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?'

    'Yes sir, I would.'

    'So you're good...!'
    'I wouldn't say that.'

    'But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could.
    Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't.'

    The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He doesn't, does
    he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to
    Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?'

    The student remains silent.

    'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a
    glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.

    'Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?'
    'Er...yes,' the student says.

    'Is Satan good?'
    The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.'

    'Then where does Satan come from?'
    The student falters. 'From God'

    'That's right God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this
    world?'
    'Yes, sir.'

    'Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?'

    'Yes.'

    'So who created evil?' The professor continued, 'If God created everything,
    then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle
    that our works define who we are, then God is evil'

    Again, the student has no answer. 'Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred?
    Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?'

    The student squirms on his feet. 'Yes.'

    'So who created them?'

    The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question.
    'Who created them?' There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks
    away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. 'Tell me,'
    he continues onto another student. 'Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?'

    The student's voice betrays him and cracks. 'Yes, professor, I do.'

    The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five senses you use to
    identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?'

    'No sir. I've never seen Him.'

    'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?'
    'No, sir, I have not.'

    'Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have
    you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that
    matter?'

    'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.'
    'Yet you still believe in him?'
    'Yes.'

    'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol,
    science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?'

    'Nothing,' the student replies. 'I only have my faith.'
    'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats. 'And that is the problem science has
    with God. There is no evidence, only faith.'

    The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His
    own. 'Professor, is there such thing as heat?'

    'Yes,' the professor replies. 'There's heat.'

    'And is there such a thing as cold?'
    'Yes, son, there's cold too.'
    'No sir, there isn't.'

    The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room
    suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. 'You can have
    lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white
    heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We
    can hit up to -458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any
    further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be
    able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees.'

    'Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits
    energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy.
    Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is
    only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold.
    Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the
    opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.'

    Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding
    like a hammer.

    'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?'

    'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation. 'What is night if it isn't
    darkness?'

    'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of
    something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing
    light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called
    darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word.'

    'In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness
    darker, wouldn't you?'

    The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a
    good semester. 'So what point are you making, young man?'

    'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start
    with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.'

    The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. 'Flawed? Can you
    explain how?'

    'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains. 'You
    argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God.
    You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can
    measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought.'

    'It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully
    understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be
    ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death
    is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.'

    'Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a
    monkey?'

    'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes,
    of course I do.'

    'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?'

    The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where
    the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.

    'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot
    even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching
    your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?'

    The class is in an uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion
    has subsided.

    'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me
    give you an example of what I mean.'

    The student looks around the room. 'Is there anyone in the class who has
    ever seen the professor's brain?' The class breaks out into laughter.

    'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the
    professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to
    have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable,
    demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due
    respect, sir.'

    'So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?'

    Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face
    unreadable.

    Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. 'I guess you'll
    have to take them on faith.'

    'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life,'
    the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?'

    Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is. We see it
    everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in
    the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These
    manifestations are nothing else but evil.'

    To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does
    not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like
    darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of
    God . God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man
    does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes
    when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.'

    The professor sat down.

    "There's Nothing better than a drunken Russian singing Italian opera"

    #2
    Re: An awesome chain email I received today:

    That professor got mentally pawned. A wonderful read, sir!

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      #3
      Re: An awesome chain email I received today:

      Awesome!
      Twothorp was in immense pain. The blisters did not care.

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        #4
        Re: An awesome chain email I received today:

        Only if it actually happened in a video or movie or something.

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          #5
          Re: An awesome chain email I received today:

          That was an interesting read. I didn't expect how that went down.
          PSN: KingJamos

          Add me... I'll wait.

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            #6
            Re: An awesome chain email I received today:

            Then the juggernaut busted into the room.

            Too bad for the student because evolution has been seen and documented. And no we did not come from chimps.
            Last edited by Tintenfisch; 07-27-2008, 01:29 AM.
            Find a dog, honk it's nose. If you are bothered by this sentence. I guess you're just not cool enough for the noses.

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              #7
              Re: An awesome chain email I received today:

              Yes, but the professor, himself, did not witness it. That was kind of what the student was going at.
              PSN: KingJamos

              Add me... I'll wait.

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                #8
                Re: An awesome chain email I received today:

                Originally posted by Tintenfisch View Post
                Then the juggernaut busted into the room.

                Too bad for the student because evolution has been seen and documented. And no we did not come from chimps.
                Anyone who makes that claim is just making a generalization, or extremely stupid. We didn't evolve from monkeys, but we share a common ancestor.

                Of course, so does most if not all life on earth.


                And the student said evil is the absence of God's love.. that's a loaded statement and doesn't prove God exists. It just stumps the professor in the story. Evil could be regarded as the absence of love in general.


                Does posting this mean God loves you?
                Last edited by Denmo; 07-27-2008, 02:34 AM.
                ...and that's why.

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                  #9
                  Re: An awesome chain email I received today:

                  The term evil is also subjective. Nothings black and white, but shades of grey.
                  Find a dog, honk it's nose. If you are bothered by this sentence. I guess you're just not cool enough for the noses.

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                    #10
                    Re: An awesome chain email I received today:

                    In my world, evil means not caring.

                    But who cares.
                    ...and that's why.

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                      #11
                      Re: An awesome chain email I received today:

                      Here we go....
                      Twothorp was in immense pain. The blisters did not care.

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                        #12
                        Re: An awesome chain email I received today:

                        "Pardon me, I have nothing to say!" -George Carlin

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                          #13
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                          "Not another religion discussion. Jesus Christ."

                          "Where!?"

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                            #14
                            Re: An awesome chain email I received today:

                            Thats our Tintenfisch

                            It doesn't matter that the student's argument doesn't prove the existence of God. The student dismantled the Professor's argument that God does not exist. Nothing was proved.
                            stodi no na ka cenba

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                              #15
                              Re: An awesome chain email I received today:

                              The student probably then cursed the heavens for the price of textbooks.
                              Find a dog, honk it's nose. If you are bothered by this sentence. I guess you're just not cool enough for the noses.

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