Champions : Return to Arms

[Vonwert]

So who all has it?

I just got my pre-owned copy today and started a Vah Shir Berserker!


I am "Vonwert" in the game.

[MaRc]

I was actually going to private message you about this, Von.
Great rack, my friend. I still need to pick it up, I should have it by tomorrow.

How is it so far? The online, I mean.

[Dreamknight]

Can the dark elf chicks be skimpy?

This is detrimental to me buying the game...

[The Dark Jester]

Im still playing the first one.

[Vonwert]

I actually couldn't get online early today. I will try again tonight.

I am going to play on the secure mode.

I did go through a little of the beginning on normal mode, and I really like the ability throw axes.

There really isn't much more options for the customizing though. Just 2 or 3 more.

Vah Shir's get kinda jimped, since they only have a couple skins, but they look really cool, so it isn't so bad.

The graphics are slightly improved and the enemies are improved. Though they didn't slaughter me untill two orges surrounded me, unlike the first one, where the orcs killed me pretty fast offline.

I will tell you more when I get online.

[Funk]

I'm getting my copy tomorrow.

[Vonwert]

I got to play online last night and it is really fun. The only thing I am not sure about is how much damage Vah Shir's take. I went down pretty fast when I got surrounded.

I don't know if I will go back to being a barb or not.

I wish I could use my xbox headset, since I like it more than the ps version I have.

And becareful of those exploding robots!

[Kire]

I got it. We should play online sometime.

[Vonwert]

I have changed to an Iksar shaman instead. I feel more comfortable with him.

I will be on tonight.

[Jeroak Nelave]

think i'm gonna trade in some stuff, and get it tomrrow, if i'm feeling well enough to go to work.

[Vonwert]

My thoughts about online...

No stupid friend list!! Agh..can't they have done something about that....

The shaman is very cool, and I think it is my favorite type of character to play.

[Funk]

Warning about some glitches in this game:

If you import a character from CoN with armor that has mana+/health+ bonuses, your bonuses WILL NOT WORK. This is a VERY ANNOYING glitch. How this got past the Sony playtesters I will never know. Of course, they are SONY playtesters, so there you go.

Also, if you use the Wiz's cold/fire enchant weapon spell on your party with a member that already has cold/fire on their weapon, the spell will wipe out the cold/fire from the weapon's slot. Also, very annoying.

And we all thought that it was the dual-layered disc that was causing all of those glitches in CoN. Snowblind Studios and Sony are really slipping in the QA area in this series. Overall, the game is great, but it would be nice to play a Champions game that wasn't plagued with a few glaring problems. Maybe five games from now we'll have them all fixed(if they get that far at this rate).

[Jeroak Nelave]

It is Sony's bug testers, and the fact that they did not do a beta release test like they did with CoN. Not enough people to work out all of the bugs.

Dont blame Snowblind, this is what beta testers are for, blame Sony.

[Funk]

Still, you'd think Snowblind would have a checklist of things to go over before it even went to the playtesters, with things like stat enhancement items being in bolded letters. Hell, I re-read every single thing I write(including this post). It is obvious that the game was rushed. They had to get the game out while CoN was still fresh in everyone's mind. Not that Return to Arms isn't good: but it could have been nearly perfect.

I just picked up some fresh armor in RtA with a health bonus attached and checked to make sure: it definitely doesn't add your health points. Imported and in-game armor won't count health or mana bonuses. It kinda sucks, but I think I'll live.

[Jeroak Nelave]

Yeah, it would have been nice if they had caught it, but that is what the beta testers are for, to make sure that a bug they might have missed is caught. I dont think i ever used HP increasing items anyway, so i doubt it would make a difference to me. Now i did sometimes use enhancing items like for fire or ice weapons, but i'll just avoid the wizard.

[Dreamknight]

Are the Erudite still black? Or are they like Shiny silvery skinned like in Everquest 2?

[Jeroak Nelave]

No clue.

Is anyone playing tonight?

[Vonwert]

I'll be on tonight!

[Gustaff 13]

FFXI cold turkey was harsh and I needed a new fix however small.

Okay, I got mine. Who's up for a fresh start with new characters tonight? Let's colaberate on AIM.

[Jeroak Nelave]

Hey i gotta run and walk the dog, and start laundry, but i'm all for playing tonight!

I'm on AIM as Jeroak Nelave, i'll be back online in a few minutes.

[Gustaff 13]

No problem, I still have to reset my MAC addresses and make a character.
Now where is Von, Funk and Kire? This'll be just like old times, except this time I actually intend to play online.

[Jeroak Nelave]

LOL, hey, why did you quit FFXI cold turkey? and do you plan on playing WoW?

I havent made a character yet, but i'll get one set up in a few minutes

[Gustaff 13]

I quit so I could focus on school, I surmise. WoW looks neato, but my computer is junk.
CoN is kindof an evenings and weekends diversion.

[Jeroak Nelave]

Anyone else want to join?

[Vonwert]

Anyone got room for a level 16 shaman? :)

[Gustaff 13]

16? Yikes...
Jero and I just got to 6-7. It was fun watching him slice up the horny knight guy while the floor and I shared an intimate moment.

[Jeroak Nelave]

Yeah, i was able to get Rallos Zek's pattern down pretty well, and killed him on the...3rd or 4th try.

And then we died about 5 or 6 times each down in the mines on the 3rd lvl or so

[Vonwert]

What time are you guys playing tonight?

I'll plop in.

I think the shamans are a really fun race to play...

[Jeroak Nelave]

I'll try to play tonight, but i think i promised my guild on wow i would join them in an instance raid.

But if not, i'll post here so we can try to play tonight.

[MaRc]

Heyo, I just got my copy.
Are you guys playing on the secure net mode or are you
just using your characters from single player?

I'm a lvl 5 shadowknight right now, in single player..
I'd just like to know before I continue with it.

Yeah, and awesome game so far. :D

[Gustaff 13]

Jero told me how that works last night, you can import your single player character as an internet character but you'll no longer be able to play offline with it.

[Vonwert]

I would start a character on a secure game. Just to be safe. I don't think you can import a single player character in a secure game...

[Jeroak Nelave]

How is works is that there are secure, and non secure games.

If you take an offline character, and play online with it, that is an unsecure game.

If you create a character online, then that will be on a secure server, allowing no cheating, hacking, anything like that.

[MaRc]

I started a new SK on the secure server, lvl 9 now.
I'm really, really hating this 'not being able to play alone' thing.

Other than that, it's all good. Exploding robots.

Jero, Gus, are you playing on secure or no?

[The Dark Jester]

Can you take the online character and use them offline?

[Jeroak Nelave]

we were on secure, and yeah, i hate that you cant just start a game, and have a friend join in, i think that sucks honestly.

And if you have a character you created online, he is online only, you cant take him offline.

The only chars you can move back and forth are the ones originally started offline.

[SirTMagus]

I quit so I could focus on school, I surmise. WoW looks neato, but my computer is junk.
You were able to play FF11 but your comp CAN'T handle Wow?! MINE CAN'T HANDLE EITHER OMG WTF!!!!????!!!!11

[Dreamknight]

I don't get it...WoW has terrible looking graphics compared to FFXI...

[Jeroak Nelave]

I think Gus was playing FFXI on the PS2, but i'm not really sure.

[Thief of Dreams]

this is neither here nor there, but i preffer the WoW graphics waaay more than FFXI. they arent as realistic, but they fit the mood of the game perfectly

[Jeroak Nelave]

Hell, if FFXI has the faster paced battles of WoW, even without the intelligent experience gaining set up, i'd probably still be playing it, but the ambience of WoW beats it, hands down.

Seriously, dont you hate how you can fight an even enemy at lvl 10, and get like 36-50 exp, and at lvl 20, fight an even level enemy and get 36-50 exp, or less.

Well, in Wow, you actually earn more exp for stronger enemies. kill an enemy at lvl 10, same lvl, and get 80 exp or whatever, kill an enemy at lvl 20, same lvl, you get about 125, and it scales upwards as you go. Yeah, you may level a little faster, but atleast i'm not spending 40 hours of gameplay trying to gain ONE level, but anyway, that is neither here nor there, WoW is just SO much better than FFXI in just about every way but graphics, and the graphics fit the game and the world extremely well.