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    SRLSY Guys: Religion

    Share your religious beliefs with me, all or some. Up to you, I'll start us off.


    I've narrowed my creation theories down to three possibilities:

    A.) God died a long time ago so that matter may work the way it does now. Just because something always was, doesn't mean something always will be.

    B.) God made everything on a whim and now just periodically ****s with us, but doesn't really care about us at all.

    C.) We will make an artificial intelligence so great that it will eventually learn to bend time and all other matter around itself, it will go back in time and create us making a paradox that is unfixable and very funny. If there was an original God, we eliminate the need for him in our time lines, sort of proving him out of existence.


    I believe in reincarnation but only in the sense that all these particles that make us right now will have some memory of us in their active nuclei and will carry this on to whatever they form next. We are constantly changing though, so if you travel a lot, you spread all your atoms around the world, making a chance of reincarnation a lot less likely. I theorize this is why great men are often rare, their ideas and self are spread so far and wide, those particles take a long time to recollect themselves.


    I'm not sure if there is an afterlife, I will wait and find out.

    I believe in ghosts, but only as burned imprints of electrons. It's very possible for your "soul" to just refuse to follow the laws of physics as they're not set in stone. Perhaps someday collectively most of your electrons just, sorta stop following you. You feel odd that day, but nothing too threatening. You have burned an "image" of yourself on this place.

    I believe in a soul. I can't explain it, but I'm almost positive I have one.

    I believe in a collective unconscious much like that described in the Jewish Kabballah and the Buddhist idea of Nirvana. We are all at one with each other, but we are divided only by our senses. If we heightened all our senses to an extreme notion, we would realize just how connected we all are. This theory explains why meditation is so prevalent in Buddhism.

    Morals are made by society the fact that our Cerebral Cortex is pretty much useless without society proves this enough for me but I can understand others need for more proof. It's just the way we've forced ourselves to evolve. That doesn't mean there isn't a right and wrong way to do things, that just means there's always a gray and it's up to society to decide where gray becomes black or white.

    "Angels" are just really awesome people. "Demons" are obviously the opposite.

    What else you want to know?
    Grow!

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    I'm pretty much agnostic, I won't confirm or deny the existence of god, but truth be told I really just don't care.

    I don't think I personally need religion to be a good person.

    I'm also not going to waste my life pondering what I'll never figure out until I'm gone, or potentially even not figure out.

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      Perhaps someday collectively most of your electrons just, sorta stop following you.
      this would be... something that would kill you

      my personal religious beliefs are just whichever religion paints fat people in the most positive light (being obese myself). buddhism has been good to me but lately i have been feeling like there might be better, fatter places to go from here.

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        Originally posted by Sgt. Fatso Jackson View Post
        this would be... something that would kill you
        You're right, I shouldn't say most, I should say some.
        Grow!

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          Hey man, I'm a man of Philosophy. I can't help if my mind theorizes. Of course I won't ever know the truth, but just like astrology and advanced astro-physics, sometimes it's just fun to pretend.
          Grow!

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            Gloom pretty much summed up my beliefs. If a god like "thing" exists, its completely uncomprehendable to us.

            I believe in a soul. I can't explain it, but I'm almost positive I have one.
            Pretty much any function once attributed to souls has been scientifically proven to occur in the matter of the brain. The soul no longer has a function, except to exist as a connection between you and god, if you believe in that sort of thing. And if its just a connection, its pretty insignificant.

            As for an afterlife: a dream invented by humans. A tool of power for the ruling class, and a ray of hope for those ruled over.

            "Angels" are just really awesome people. "Demons" are obviously the opposite.
            What is awesome, who defines it and how? There is no "goodness" or "badness", they are constructs invented by society. One society's monster is another's saint.

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              You're no fun Sampson.
              Grow!

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                B.) God made everything on a whim and now just periodically ****s with us, but doesn't really care about us at all.
                This is essentially Christianity in a nutshell isn't it?

                I believe in a collective unconscious much like that described in the Jewish Kabballah and the Buddhist idea of Nirvana. We are all at one with each other, but we are divided only by our senses. If we heightened all our senses to an extreme notion, we would realize just how connected we all are. This theory explains why meditation is so prevalent in Buddhism.
                I agree completely.

                I try to be pluralistic... I'm spiritual but I'm not so sure about any one religious philosophy getting everything right. I like Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Shamanism the most.

                But ultimately I'm a pantheist. I believe if there is a god it is the sum of all the energy in the universe, it is nature, it is the connection between people and it exists within all of us, the only heaven we could ever possibly have is here on earth and it's on us to create it (which is part of the reason i have so much resentment towards things like Christianity that say all you gotta do here is like jesus and be good people and put up with this **** hole 'cause you're going somewhere better when you die, i just think it's such a waste and it's the mindset that western culture is based on) and that science is pretty much the only thing that knows anything about anything when it comes to reality so it's best just to stick with them. I don't know why people always think science and spirituality are at odds (actually i do but i've said enough there), I figure if anybody is going to discover the true answer as to what this whole spirit thing is about it would obviously be science. that's what science does, it figures out how things actually are.

                I like the idea of the collective unconscious or collective soul as well. I think when we die our consciousness is recycled into nature just as everything else is, but we are not reincarnated in the sense that our soul enters a new body. I am my mind, so when I die I'm done, but "my" soul is universal and it will extend itself outward to a new mind of some creature somewhere in this universe until the end of time.

                Perhaps I'm still a bit of an atheist as well. I'm trying to be a spiritual atheist I guess, I don't know.

                [edit: a spiritual atheist with aliens.]
                Last edited by Kit Carruthers; 03-14-2008, 07:23 AM.

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                  We are mere figures on a chess board played by the gods.

                  Im a positive athiest, which means I dont agree or disagree with any religion, and I dont have one myself.

                  I once was a pagan, till I realized it consisted of only hippies and emo teenagers...
                  Last edited by JPS; 03-14-2008, 07:54 AM.

                  Here I come Pav, like the Kool-Aid man barging into a funeral! Oh yeah!

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                    For the most part, I'm an atheist, at least most of the time. When I think about it, I toy with a belief of my own invention, sort of a mix of pantheism and animism, with elements or reincarnations. Essentially, that each form of life (and some things that aren't alive) has a soul within it, and upon death the soul fragments. Any living creature that consumes the dead being will take a part of its soul into theirs. Really, beings are a collection of souls, like individual legos making a set. Some fragments are lost as well as gained (as waste materials and dead cells leave the body), and we change constantly throughout life. The "Great Spirit" is the collective presence of all the souls in the world, recieving thoughts and knowledge from all the "life" souls.

                    However, if a body is not consumed and does not decay, the the soul(s) will stay in the body, possibly forever, never becoming a part of the collective spirit. Also, if a body is "destroyed (ie. vaporized or very badly burned)," then its soul is released into the world, with the same effect as that above, with the exception that the released souls have a presence, and can do harm as they go about trying to find a way to return to the Great Spirit.

                    That's all I can think of, for now. Don't know if I've covered anything.

                    Oh yeah, I very nearly considered joining the Chruch of Satan.

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                      Didn't that line of thinking end up with a bunch of people eating dead people thinking they'll gain their abilities in western Europe a few hundred years ago?

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                        I wouldn't know.

                        But that is kind of a part of it (minus the powers). I actually partly made this for the beliefs of the natives in a science fiction story of mine. And yeah, that's a funeral for them. Except for enemies. Eating your enemies is not good.
                        Last edited by Dusk Raven; 03-14-2008, 08:42 AM.

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                          Originally posted by Dusk Raven View Post
                          Oh yeah, I very nearly considered joining the Chruch of Weenie Hut Junior.
                          Fixed

                          Here I come Pav, like the Kool-Aid man barging into a funeral! Oh yeah!

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                            Originally posted by JPS View Post
                            Fixed
                            I thought this was supposed to be serious?

                            If there is a god, then either humans have edited His word so much it's not even close to what God really said, or He's just plain evil. In my opinion He's just harvesting human souls like crops for use in His army. Of course, I don't believe in God at all, so that's restricted to my RPGM games.

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                              I'm a diest, I guess you'd say, believing there is some kind of God out there, and the cycles and systems we see out there are fully self regulating. It's highly possible it doesn't care about us here, but I'd like to think it does.

                              I'm also a big believer in Near Death Experiences, especially since the assumption that NDEs are a hallucination of the brain dieing has been scientificly disproven by a few studies (debunked were the theories of NDEs being caused by a lack of oxygen to the brain, as well as people experiencing NDEs when coming back from having 0 brain activity recorded while incapacitated).

                              http://www.mikepettigrew.com/afterli...tch_study.html

                              There was also a much more recent study, I just can't find it right now.

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