Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism

[Loki]

This is a series of youtube videos that presents well-thought out and elegantly-worded arguments about the major misconceptions the Creationist Movement pushes upon the populace about what should or must be believed about science, evolution, atheism, etc. They're entertaining, short (about ten minutes each), and make a very disctinct and clear point with a surprisingly immense wealth of information.

Falsehood 1: Evolution automatically implies or requires atheism.
Falsehood 2: Holy Scripture is in any way proven to be the infallible word of God
Falsehood 3: The notion of absolute truth.
Falsehood 4: That strong belief is somehow the equal of empirical knowledge.
Falsehood 5: That evolution can be classified as a religion itself.
Falsehood 6: Deliberate misunderstanding and misrepresenting of what evolution is.

[gray]

Re: Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism

oh, creationism as in evolution



guess they're still working on the "where'd everything come from in the first place" question

[Vanilla Iced Tea]

Re: Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism

I don't see how most of those falsehoods are in any way foundational to Creationism. It's more like "Falsehoods of Misinformed Creationists."

Maybe I'll be more specific when I have more time later. In any case, from what I've watched of the videos, they're hardly elegant. They don't even pretend to start out from a neutral point, and they seem to spend more time building up ad hominem arguments than they do actually making convincing statements.

[Stormy]

Re: Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism

I don't see how most of those falsehoods are in any way foundational to Creationism. It's more like "Falsehoods of Misinformed Creationists."

Maybe I'll be more specific when I have more time later. In any case, from what I've watched of the videos, they're hardly elegant. They don't even pretend to start out from a neutral point, and they seem to spend more time building up ad hominem arguments than they do actually making convincing statements.

That sounds like most Athiest arguments to me.

[Vanilla Iced Tea]

Re: Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism

Blaahhh, once again, you're just talking about misinformed Creationists. You can take apart the argument of the least intelligent proponents of a belief, but all you're really doing is setting up a straw man to knock down.

I am a Creationist and I accept the theory of evolution, alright? There are other people like me out there, too. Not all Creationists are idiots.

[Valkysas]

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it's the majority. there's far more misinformed creationists than there are informed creationists.

unfortunately.

[Vanilla Iced Tea]

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I'm well aware of that. I'm just tired of people making generalizations about me because of them.

[Valkysas]

Re: Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism

then get to evening out the numbers a bit.

[Dusk Raven]

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I commented on one of the videos.

In any case, from what I've watched of the videos, they're hardly elegant.

They're more then elegant, they're funny too.

I am a Creationist and I accept the theory of evolution, alright?

So, do you believe that god created the world in 7 days or over millions of years? I'm not sure you mean die-hard literal creationism. Or maybe I'm just not used to those two going together.

[Seraph]

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Sarcasm. It's everywhere you wanna be.

[Vanilla Iced Tea]

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Well, explain your side to me as I've never talked to an intelligent creationist and want to hear from one.

Oh, and don't pull that irreducible parts crap either.

I'm not even sure where to start. To be honest, I don't necessarily have the time to sit around and write a philosophical treatise on why I believe in Creationism, but I'll say a few things.

What it essentially boils down to is that I find it obvious that evolution is a scientific process, and I also believe that there is plenty of reason to be a theist (again, I honestly just don't have the time or energy right now to write out why). I think that God can, and often does, work through the natural processes of the world, so it makes sense that he could create through evolution. The Genesis account is very poetic and uses metaphor, and overall I think it is compatible with the theory of evolution. This idea is called theistic evolution, and other people smarter than me have elucidated on it.

I don't really think much of the "irreducible parts crap." It's not a very strong argument, and it's not really necessary to theistic evolution.

I feel like I'm copping out by saying that I don't have time to be specific, but I really don't.

[Gustaff 13]

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The lord dear God allows lethal bacteria to live in the mouths of komodo dragons in order to slowly and painfully smite his enemies. Amen.

No...


The only thing that really irks me about creationists are the ones trying to amend biology textbooks. If that's the case, it'd only be fair to include the creation myth of every culture and religion.

[Kefka Jr.]

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Even as a kid, I never understood how evolution flies in the face of creationism.

[Denmo]

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Yeah, I didn't know people thought evolution was a bad thing until I came to Georgia.

Me: "So uhh, did you hear about how they found new fossil evidence of prehistoric neanderthals?"

Girl: "It's all fake. Those photos are fake and those skulls were placed there. Evolution isn't real."

Me: o_O;

[DK]

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then get to evening out the numbers a bit.

Let's get black people to stop eating fried chicken and watermelon, too.