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Valkysas
05-14-2005, 05:42 PM
RPG Maker Pavilion Exclusive RPG Maker 3 Preview (http://www.pavilionboards.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1570)

Yeah, it's here. It's big. It will make you drool. We have agetec's RPG Maker 3 press kit before anyone else, and we waste no time getting it out to the people.

The other game sites will have these same images soon, but why wait? As always, the RPG Maker Pavilion is bringing you the most up-to-date RPG Maker news FIRST.



http://www.pavilionboards.com/RM3.jpg

RPGD
05-14-2005, 06:47 PM
Absolutely extraordinary. Ph43r t3h l33t Tr33 M4nn.

Okay, I'm calling him "Tr33 M4nn" from hereonin.

Seriously, this is wonderful, Paul. Excelsior!

Doyleman
05-14-2005, 07:03 PM
Long live the tree man at that :)

*sigh*, well, it has been a long day, and i'm very content with what I've seen today :lol

Big Rick Cook
05-14-2005, 07:07 PM
OMFG.

I hadn't planned on buying it.

Now I must.

RPGD
05-14-2005, 07:13 PM
I vote Tr33 M4nn to be the Pavilion mascot.

Doyleman
05-14-2005, 07:17 PM
I second that vote :)

anyway, the movies, the pics, there all great, but when's the contest for the RPGMs gonna be?!

Draygone
05-14-2005, 07:18 PM
Looks pretty spiffy. Looks easy, too. I hope we can make some great games on this. Glad to see there's at least two monster-type models that can be used outside the battle system.

Riotsword
05-14-2005, 07:31 PM
I couldn't see many of the last pictures... they were just little red X's.

Doyleman
05-14-2005, 07:33 PM
they were mostly enemies.
sometimes that happens, i usually reload or wait it out, depending on what happened.

Big Rick Cook
05-14-2005, 07:36 PM
My only concern is the sheer number of games that will come out that are really alike.

Valkysas
05-14-2005, 07:37 PM
right click, show picture. not all will load all the time, because there's so many.

Doyleman
05-14-2005, 08:34 PM
It's been awhile and I still look at those pictures...
I'm excited....:)...still think they're teasers though :lol

Valkysas
05-14-2005, 08:39 PM
well of course they're teasers. we want to hype people up about the game so they go buy it!

there's actually about 19 pictures I left out of the preview. I didnt think we needed five pictures of the apocalypse spell being used, multiple pictures of both big dragon monsters roaring, stuff like that.

Jeroak Nelave
05-14-2005, 08:43 PM
I'm sure we will see alot of stuff that looks just like everything else, but if it is as versatile in making games as RPGMAker 1 was, well, we saw what people were able to do with that, even without alot of custom stuff.

I personally will make atleast 1 game, i will do Dragons Legacy, i so swear...AS LONG AS IT HAS KEYBOARD SUPPORT. It would be stupid if it doesnt, but i have to ask.

Does it have USB keyboard support Valk?

The Toecutter
05-14-2005, 08:47 PM
I wonder if we can modify the objects and buildings to any extent, and if there is any visual FX editor that can be applied like in RPGM2's.


any lists of buildings, characters, monsters, and objects that can be shared, complete/accurate or not(with appropriate disclamers)?

Doyleman
05-14-2005, 09:01 PM
ha, five or so of the same pics would be pointless, and your mission was successful, as i'm hyped :)

Valkysas
05-14-2005, 09:52 PM
everything I have seen says nothing about a keyboard, including the japanese site. I hope this is a massive error, and that it does in fact support the keyboard.

as for objects and buildings, stuff like that, everything I know is in those screens, the japanese site, and the movies posted on IGN. for once, I've shared everything I know about this RPG Maker, whereas opposed to 2, where I kept a ton of stuff secret until the day it came out.

EDIT: Agetec has informed me that it has keyboard support.

Valkysas
05-14-2005, 10:18 PM
David Silviera just e-mailed me.

he just put up RPGM3's info page at agetec, it's been pushed to august. (to build up hype). but it supports the keyboard... and mysteriously enough, the HARD DRIVE.

http://www.agetec.com/products.asp?MyView=Coming+Soon&ProductID=145&ProductName=RPG+Maker+3

he has also invited me to call/e-mail him with any questions about the title, so give me questions, and I'll get them answered.

Lone Phantom
05-14-2005, 10:26 PM
It looks amazing.

The Toecutter
05-14-2005, 10:31 PM
he has also invited me to call/e-mail him with any questions about the title, so give me questions, and I'll get them answered.

Are there any buildings, objects, characters, and monsters appropriate for a modern-day setting? If so, list some of them.

Can you create your own visual effects, and put them on objects or characters, like in RPGM2?

Are there any firearm weapons that can be used in battle or monster/enemy graphics carrying such?

Any way to create your own music?

Are there scripting commands that would allow you to create a custom battle system?

How many character models, object models, monster models, and building models are there for a game maker to use? If appropriate, please list some of them not shown in screenshots.

Are there any kind of custom graphic features in RPGM3? Such as a sprite maker(For pasting 2D graphics onto buildings/objects/characters, ect.) or perhaps any sort of photo software similar to picture paradise?

Is there an in-game snapshot feature?

What uses does the PS2 hard drive have for this game? What parts of the game can be stored on the hard drive?

Valkysas
05-14-2005, 10:43 PM
okay, these are the initial questions I sent:

>Number of character models, number per gender, and how many enemy-like
>character models there are
>
>Number of objects.
>
>Number of pre-made buildings
>
>Number of animations per character, or if there's a large pool that all the
>characters draw from.
>
>What the hard drive is used for
>
>One of the Screenshots shows a monster in a dungeon, and the player
>character looking at it from a distance. are all monsters able to be used
>out of battle? can they be used as player characters?
>
>can you design your own custom buildings? custom objects?
>
>How large are the save files going to be?
>
>for the field editor, is there mouse support?
>
>are there facial expressions?

and then I added terrorists.

he doesnt know everything off-hand, so he's checking the game right now.

Doyleman
05-14-2005, 10:46 PM
What kind of event/script commands are there?

how much in game memory does this have? (like rpgm2 had 1,500,000 about for hard)

is there a beginner, normal, hard mode *hey, it doesn't hurt to ask*?

When is the contest?

Traps are in this, can they inflict indirect effects instead of HP or vise versa if it does indirect effects?

How many weather effects are there?

How is the clock *noted at the upper right hand corner* run? can you change how fast it goes?

How many camera effects are there?


thats about it for me. :)

Lone Phantom
05-14-2005, 10:54 PM
Is there any girls in wooden shoes.

Valkysas
05-14-2005, 10:56 PM
.... strange, strange question right there.

what do you mean, wooden shoe? clogs?

Doyleman
05-14-2005, 10:59 PM
ugh, you mean the Dutch girl with the guillatine or whatever right? :|
You really want to see that in this game don't you :lol

Big Rick Cook
05-14-2005, 11:02 PM
He's only asked it in every topic, and even made a topic asking it specifically.

I don't think it's important to him.

Doyleman
05-14-2005, 11:04 PM
yeah, i was getting kind of annoyed seeing it everywhere. sad thing is he asked the question when no one really knew/knows......but i guess his question actually might be appropriate here *well, you know, whether it is in here or not*.....

Valkysas
05-14-2005, 11:04 PM
the game is rated E.

I dont see a guillotine making an appearance, and if one does show up, I don't see it being usable.

Lone Phantom
05-14-2005, 11:05 PM
Sorry if it seems wierd, but yes it is, and yes I means clogs.
and is there any way to make an individual part of the body transparent?
sorry, I am just absessed, thats all.

Lone Phantom
05-14-2005, 11:07 PM
when I said yes it is, I did not mean the question I asked, i do not meen
to seem to excited. :lol

Valkysas
05-14-2005, 11:09 PM
seriously, knock it off with the multiple posts here. THIS IS A NEWS TOPIC, and you're spamming the hell out of it. one more time, and I will BAN you from main forum, and thus all RPGM3 news!

neobi
05-15-2005, 12:11 AM
"he has also invited me to call/e-mail him with any questions about the title, so give me questions, and I'll get them answered." ~ Valk

1) I'm certain there is an extent of visual effects creation, but will I be able to use them outside of battle?

2) I know many people had problems with #2 becuase of the complexity. I however felt there wasn't enough options and complexity to it. I felt that everywhere there was some kind of input there should be the option of a variable or flag in the script to place there. Even if it was irrational to the blank have it default to something. However I fear that in this one even more freedom will be taken away in scripting. A) To what extent can we use data B) I need to be able to call events and party's XYZ variables will I be able to do this, also their direction and please tell me you finally gave a camera direction variable. C) What are the types of data booleans vars and strings again. Can I change a var into a string??

3) Will one be able to mess with the water level again, it looks like the maps have set stuff.

4) I noticed a time of day thing in the corner, can I get rid of this or can I make my own catagories to the day

5) You can set motions to characters, can I customize these motions? Like Fighter Maker 2 stule. Limb by limb frame to frame?

(I'll think of more later)

Draygone
05-15-2005, 01:23 AM
it supports the keyboard... and mysteriously enough, the HARD DRIVE.Awesome! I'm glad I decided not to uninstall mine. Nice to know I won't only be using it to store backup files.

So, uh, what's so "Special Edition" about it? Because it's easier, or because it was essentially a "special edition" in Japan, being separate from the main series sort of? (PS: It's about time we're getting a box that looks the same as the Japanese box!)

And whoo-hoo, we've got an official partial release date!he has also invited me to call/e-mail him with any questions about the title, so give me questions, and I'll get them answered.Okay, first off, can battle animations (like swinging swords as well as spell effects) be used outside of battle? If so, that would mean the possibility of both awesome cutscenes and a CBS (which makes me wonder how many enemy-like character models there are; thanks for asking ahead of time).

Yes, varied camera options are a must. For example, would I be able to tilt or flip the camera on its side or upside-down?

Just to get an idea of how quick and easy this tool will be, how long would it take to, say, make a room with a small amount of furniture and two people who say something random like "Okay, who let you in the house?"

I wonder what exactly the DBS is like. I assume similar to Dragon Warrior, except 3rd-person.

RPGD
05-15-2005, 01:39 AM
I only have a few querries;

> How many VFX are there in RPGM3 and to what extent can they be edited? (since it seems like making your own dosen't seem possible)

> Can VFX be applied to a character? (i.e: setting someone on fire)

> Is there a building editor?

> Can buildings be used as events?

That's pretty much it, aside from wondering how scripting options go, but I'd prefer to wonder.

Ah, Terrirost, you can't edit Main Forum posts.

Ryner
05-15-2005, 03:40 AM
It looks great :(

Rodak
05-15-2005, 04:48 AM
it supports the keyboard... and mysteriously enough, the HARD DRIVE.
That's all I need to know.

I'm buying it whether or not it has a cow!

But since the new slim PS2 does not support the hard drive I've got to get my old big one with the burned out laser repaired. And buy a hard drive.

This is gonna be the most expensive game I ever bought!

jvrlopez
05-15-2005, 06:49 AM
Thanks for sharing that Valk. This is a sure purchase for me.

This looks great.

Draygone
05-15-2005, 10:07 AM
Can buildings be used as events?If I saw right, one of the videos at IGN showed an "event" option when placing buildings. Dunno exactly what sort of things you could do with buildings, though. Maybe something like have it pop out of the ground, like an ancient temple.

Draygone
05-15-2005, 10:12 AM
(How come there isn't an edit button in the Main forum?)I've got to get my old big one with the burned out laser repaired. And buy a hard drive.Personally I'd wait to see if it was necessary at first. For all we know it'll probably simply be used as a mega-sized memory card. Which is okay if you don't want to worry about running out of room on your memory card and have to delete something or buy a new $25 memory card. Actually that sounds like a pretty good deal to me. I doubt we'd be able to store bigger games on it, though.

Jeroak Nelave
05-15-2005, 11:54 AM
maybe it will allow for things like downloading new models and stuff, that can be used in your games(dont know how that will affect using mem cards to distribute the games though).

Hopefully it is something interesting.

Valkysas
05-15-2005, 02:42 PM
honestly, if anything I think its to install RPG Maker 3 onto the hard drive. its not going to be something massively important for such an expensive and hard to find add-on.

The Toecutter
05-15-2005, 05:27 PM
If the whole tool could be installed on the HDD, you could give RPGM3 to a friend with a hard drive, and he could put RPGM3 on it, give the disk back to you, and he'd never have to buy a copy of the game. I don't think Enterbrain or Agetec would do something like that, although I kind of like the idea as others could play people's games without having to buy RPGM3. Perhaps the creation tool itself doesn't get installed, but maybe just the ability to play others games without buying RPGM3?

Valkysas
05-15-2005, 06:32 PM
well, all of Wild Arms: Alter Code F can be installed to the hard drive, so I dunno.

Rodak
05-15-2005, 06:32 PM
its not going to be something massively important for such an expensive and hard to find add-on.

Drat.

I was hoping it (the hard drive) would create the option of larger save files.

I do not know enough about the way the hardware works to know if that is even feasible though. Anybody?

Ahhh, but I can dream. And until I hear for sure one way or the other, I'll hope.

And I'm usually such a pessimist too. At least when you're a pessimist, you're never disappointed!

Peace.

Alzar
05-15-2005, 06:35 PM
HOT

Adam Ferrell
05-15-2005, 06:45 PM
Why does the cover say ~special edition~???

How many additions are there???

Adam Ferrell
05-15-2005, 07:17 PM
I wish Agetec would release it in the summer.In August I won't have alot of time unless its the weekend. You want to build hype you release games in the summer so people have alot of free time to play games and more will recommend it.

BTW-What happened to the edit post button???

Goufunaki
05-15-2005, 07:35 PM
If the whole tool could be installed on the HDD, you could give RPGM3 to a friend with a hard drive, and he could put RPGM3 on it, give the disk back to you, and he'd never have to buy a copy of the game.


Not so. The Resident Evil Outbreak series lets you install the whole game to the HDD, but you still need the original disc in order to play it.

Goufunaki
05-15-2005, 07:38 PM
No edit button = bah! ><


But it would be cool if you installed RPGM3 on yer friends HDD, and it simply let them play a finished game, and not make one.

The Toecutter
05-15-2005, 08:42 PM
Not so. The Resident Evil Outbreak series lets you install the whole game to the HDD, but you still need the original disc in order to play it.

Then what purpose does putting it on the HDD have? The loading time of PS2 games is not so horrendous as to alone justify this feature.

Redneck 2000
05-15-2005, 11:12 PM
Some people would disagree.

Rodak
05-16-2005, 04:11 AM
Then what purpose does putting it on the HDD have? The loading time of PS2 games is not so horrendous as to alone justify this feature.
What about a simple "Back-Up" of the disc? That way when the dog spreads peanut butter on it and leaves it outside for the squirrells to chew up, you still have a copy.

I hate it when that happens.

They may have some form of "copy guard" but again my knowledge of this hardware very is limited.

Chuck
05-16-2005, 06:58 AM
Then what purpose does putting it on the HDD have? The loading time of PS2 games is not so horrendous as to alone justify this feature.

Have you played Resident Evil Outbreak? Without the HDD there's a couple seconds load time EVERY TIME you go through a door. And about twice as long before and after a cutscene (many of which are shorter than the loadtimes for them). Still I love the game though.

Whatever use RPGM3 has for the HDD probably won't be as integral as downloadable content unfortunately because they wouldn't want the many players who don't (or can't) have one to feel like they missing out on the best features of the game. Back when they decided to do that with SOCOM2 they expected it would help sell HDDs but obviously that failed and RPGM3 doesn't have anywhere near SOCOM's mass appeal.

Although I think this will be the most widely popular RPG Maker yet. The graphics will pull in people who ignored the others. Graphics and difficulty were the reasons given for any bad reviews RM2 got so it's very likely this one will get high ratings. Sadly that means a lot of brainless idiots joining into the RPGM community but it'll mean higher sales for Agetec and an increased likelihood of future installments so I'm all for it.

Necromancy
05-16-2005, 08:18 AM
Yes, the improved graphics may bring some new creators in, but it might also dissapoint many.

Hardcore fans of RPG Maker have been waiting for a game like this. Others...i'm not so sure. On the extremely slow, boring, empty RPG Maker "3" board (Actually...it's something like Teskuti or the like), someone said they wanted a lot of customization. Of course, the kind they want is insane and not very likely.

I just think this is going to be what every RPG Maker fan wanted. And I also think we are going to be too busy working with RPGM3 to be worried about crazy little newcomers.

RPGD
05-16-2005, 10:59 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/RPGProgrammer/Tr33M4nn.png

jvrlopez
05-16-2005, 11:08 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/RPGProgrammer/Tr33M4nn.png

BADASS

Draygone
05-16-2005, 11:16 AM
And I also think we are going to be too busy working with RPGM3 to be worried about crazy little newcomers....And you are?I just think this is going to be what every RPG Maker fan wanted.Tell that to anyone who wants an RPGM with modern or sci-fi setting.

jvrlopez
05-16-2005, 11:49 AM
I dont mind the ancient seting but wouldve loved to have some modern/sci fi elements. Oh well, you cant have everything and Im happy with whats going to be released.

pinkymadigan
05-16-2005, 01:15 PM
For anyone working on dungeons already- looks like a dungeon map segment is 32x32 by my count, just FYI.

WarDragon
05-16-2005, 02:30 PM
I can't wait for this amazing game. Since it supports harddrives for the ps2 luckily i have one.

Necromancy
05-16-2005, 08:17 PM
Aye, first things first.

I am Necromancy. Strong member and supporter of RPG Maker. I'm CycoSpore on the Gamefaqs boards. I usually didn't visit the other message boards for RPG Maker because most (Not this one, though) were dead. That's why I stuck with Gamefaqs; the few that were on there kept me updated on whats going on in RPG Maker. So...I didn't have much reason to come here. With all this RPGM3 hype, i've decided to become a full member of this board. I think I made the right choice.

Enough about me, i'm not that important...onto what really matters.

When I said "Every RPG Maker's dream" I meant in terms of graphics and userability. To be honest, I want a Sci-Fi RPG maker. But for some odd reason, we have yet to see one. I prefer Sci-Fi over any other genre. Not the point, though. The point is, this RPGM looks simple, and looks good. That's enough for me...for now. I really want an RPGM Sci-Fi Edition...but hey, why pass up this great opportunity at what, I hope, is the "right" formula for a Midevil RPG?

Goufunaki
05-16-2005, 08:20 PM
Then what purpose does putting it on the HDD have? The loading time of PS2 games is not so horrendous as to alone justify this feature.

Outbreaks loading time, for whatever reason, is horrible. I honestly don't know why it's like this when other games have bigger areas loaded quickly.

neobi
05-16-2005, 08:49 PM
Outbreaks loading time, for whatever reason, is horrible. I honestly don't know why it's like this when other games have bigger areas loaded quickly.

Poorly scripted systems...

Adam Ferrell
05-16-2005, 11:07 PM
AUGUST???That sucks so much. I wish Agetec would release it when they'll sell the most copies---In Summer,duh....I'm going to be buying new clothes and school supplies in August and I won't have nearly as much time to play games.

Why oh why did they have to believe in "hype"....

Adam Ferrell
05-16-2005, 11:31 PM
"Special Edition"?

On the cover at the bottom it says "~special edition~",,,I don't see why????

Jeroak Nelave
05-16-2005, 11:37 PM
Hey, maybe the HDD support is for the addition of new models later, that will be modern or sci fi setting. The only drawback is that the game may take 2 cards, or a full card due to having to have the extra models and stuff.

It is unlikely, but who knows.

Smurf Taco
05-17-2005, 01:57 AM
HD = lame... My old PS2 broke a month or two ago and it'd be more expensive to have it fixed than to get a new one, and the new one's don't support the HD. :(

WarDragon
05-17-2005, 04:58 PM
I'm glad i still have my old ps2. Why august that should be around the time i'm starting college. Who's going to save money for this game?

Valkysas
05-17-2005, 05:06 PM
I won't.

Adam Ferrell
05-17-2005, 05:23 PM
You'll probably get one for free.Or you'll be like me and just forget about it by August.

Valkysas
05-17-2005, 05:47 PM
first one.

Necromancy
05-17-2005, 07:42 PM
I'm saving up. :!

Chuck
05-17-2005, 08:53 PM
I'll just buy it with the extra money from my financial aid. Unless I actually manage to get a job over the summer like I'm trying to. I usually only buy games that've been out for a long while and are around $20 cause seriously it's the same game it was a few months ago and now it's 1/3 the price. But this one I'm getting Day 1. I wanted to get RPGM1 on the first day but I ended up having to wait a month. I'm hoping to be one of the first to put up a demo and eventually a full game. I can really see myself finishing something on this one because it will be a lot easier and faster to create something that's close to what you envisioned. I always spent forever on my opening cutscenes for RPGM1 trying to get them the way I wanted and could never get the towns and dungeons the way I wanted.

Adam Ferrell
05-17-2005, 09:57 PM
Yep. RPGM2 was harder but you may still have trouble making 3 look unique.Unless you're really good than most rpgs will look the same.

Let us hope rpgm3 will have a script maker.

Adam Ferrell
05-17-2005, 09:58 PM
I meant rpgm1........(no edit=bad choice)

Isn't rpgm3 going to be $40.00

Valkysas
05-18-2005, 01:17 AM
no price has been announced yet. I'd figure 40-50 though.

WarDragon
05-18-2005, 11:58 AM
i'll just buy it with my new credit card.

pinkymadigan
05-20-2005, 09:23 AM
*Sigh* The date was too good to be true. I had planned to go into surgery, come out of 2 days of major painkillers and lay around for a week or so playing RPGM3. Now I'll have to read a book or something. And wait. Like always.

Jeroak Nelave
05-20-2005, 01:34 PM
Me want more info on RPG Maker 3!!!!

ohh ohh (monkey sounds)

Valkysas
05-20-2005, 03:19 PM
Agetec's a bit busy right now. E3. more info will come when they get back.

Jeroak Nelave
05-20-2005, 06:27 PM
yeah i know, just excited to see more stuff about the game.

Just for nostalgia's sake, i picked up RPGMaker so that I could play peoples RPGM1 games.

Draygone
05-20-2005, 08:11 PM
Did RPGM3 appear at E3, does anyone know? I haven't seen anything.

The Toecutter
05-20-2005, 08:17 PM
I cannot wait to see Dave from answer those questions sent to him. If the game is all show no go, I think I'll pass it up. If I can create a believable looking post apocalyptic RPG at least, I'll pick it up.

RPGD
05-20-2005, 08:21 PM
Yep, it appeared, along with AC: Ninebreaker and Formula Front, among others. Gamespot should have the videos up by the end of the expo.

Draygone
05-21-2005, 12:07 AM
Eh, I wouldn't trust Gamespot to put up stuff regarding RPGM anything. Look at their RPGM2 info.

RPGD
05-21-2005, 07:50 AM
Yep, you're right. They shunned all five of Agetec's games completely.

No matter, we still love you!

:minotaur

Pandacon
06-06-2005, 07:55 PM
looks good, and I'm hoping to see an updated with those questions answered even thought this thread hasn't had a post in a few weeks...

one thing that bothers me is this:

http://www.pavilionboards.com/rpgm3/dungeon1.jpg

From this picture I assume that dungeon maps can only be 32x32, I hope I'm wrong though, I'm hoping that its possible to do maps at 64x64 minimum.

Valkysas
06-06-2005, 08:00 PM
you could always connect multiple maps, I'm sure.

Pandacon
06-06-2005, 08:59 PM
I hope so, I wanna try to duplicate my rpgm1 maps into rpgm3.

Doyleman
06-06-2005, 09:10 PM
I don't see why you couldn't, just make 2 sep dungeons and connect em with teleport events.
But ignored all 5?!
Ouch..... I was hoping that gamestop had some coverage video wise, but no...my hopes were smashed, slammed, battered, and above all other, crushed :(
Well, if what I heard is correct, then I only have to wait about til Aug. 2 to see what the heck gamestop missed out on :)

RPGD
06-06-2005, 09:12 PM
I can confirm that it isn't 32X32.

Including the walls, it's actually 34X34.

:minotaur

Seriously, though, it seems that you can make multiple floors for dungeons, so you won't have to shuffle about a fat, unorganized dungeon archive to make adjustments.

Pandacon
06-06-2005, 09:26 PM
True, but it does hinder my plans for my "Maze of unlimited DOOM". Yeah, it'll be a pain in the ass to play through.

Necromancy
06-07-2005, 08:16 AM
Huh...can't wait for our questions to be answered.

As for the dungeon size...that could be a problem, but I hope (as someone said earlier) you can link dungeons or have multiple floors. That would make things easier.

Adam Ferrell
06-23-2005, 11:13 PM
Huh...can't wait for our questions to be answered.

As for the dungeon size...that could be a problem, but I hope (as someone said earlier) you can link dungeons or have multiple floors. That would make things easier.

it says on the pic that their is up and down floors.

Adam Ferrell
06-24-2005, 11:33 AM
Gamespot has some cool videos.

Gamespot's RPG Maker 3 videos (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/rpgmaker3/media.html)

Draygone
06-24-2005, 07:42 PM
Not new. Someone pointed them out in another forum.

Chuck
06-24-2005, 10:47 PM
According to BonusStage (http://www.bonusstage.com/art2493.html) the included game is called "Dear Brave Heart" and is 6 hours.

Necromancy
06-24-2005, 10:54 PM
I...Hate...Reviews...Of...RPG...Maker...3...

I swear it. There was a reveiw in PSM (Which I just got today) for RPGM3, and than the review posted (See above post). I hate reviews like those 2. Both of the reviews sound like they are coming from some gamer who has never touched RPGM before. Those reviews make me angry...you have to have skill and understanding to know and love RPGMakers (1 and all).

Yea...I just needed to get that off my chest. Geeze...everyone has a right to an opinion, I know. So that is mine.

Valkysas
06-24-2005, 11:57 PM
yay, bonus stage can copy from agetec's product listing page.

RPGD
06-25-2005, 11:14 AM
Is there any negativity in the PSM review?

Necromancy
06-25-2005, 07:52 PM
Uhm...let's see.

Quote: Thus, it is little shock that RPG Maker 3 is not for brash gamers with twitchy thumbs. (Dih.)

A plus: It is 300% easier, faster, prettier, and more intuitive than RPGM2.

Uhm...map making is a little tricky 'cause the map mode is capable of showing either texture maps or the elevations. SUM: You can't see textures and elevations at the same time in the map. Each are seperate. They say it may take a couple hours to have the perfect map to lay your town.

Character/Item creation CAN involve complex scripts, heavy customization and all, but it is not required. The game already has an extroadinary variety of pre-made avatars that make starting easier. SUM: You can use pre-mades, or customize your own. (I don't think they ever played 2. That was very customizable...I doubt this is anywhere near that.)

Story and Rules section (Convos and the like) are supposedly extremely easy. It just gets lame having to punch in each letter (Get a keyboard, they say.)

They think it "stinks" you can't upload your finished RPG to the 'net, but via the harddrive you can upload RPGM3 to decrease the waiting times.

They say it takes several hours to make anything that even resembles an RPG (Dih. Haven't you played the first 2?).

And now, 4 things they say you need to start RPGM3 ('Sides a Ps2, the Game, etc.)
A keyboard-They're lazy; they say you NEED a keyboard
Patience-Dih?
Time-They say it'll take months to make something good. Welcome to RPGM.
Creativity-They mention cliches. xD

And there you go! The artical summed up and broken down! Those are all said and done by PSM, and whether it is fact or fiction is their fault. Uh.

RPGD
06-25-2005, 08:04 PM
Aside from the annoying first comment and somesuch, that review looks "okay", if a bit negative. Something of a non-devotee's take, though not a totally informed one.

Caciss
06-25-2005, 08:05 PM
You do realize they're creating a review, not for you and other RPGM regulars -- but for people new to the series. They don't know a lot of the stuff common in the game. I'm surpised you're getting so worked up over someone doing their job. It's Agetec's job to tell us the features and what not, and it's PSM's job to give an opinion and evaluation of a game for the average gamer.

RPGD
06-25-2005, 08:05 PM
Ah, and in the case of the BonusStage preview, that one was dandy.

Necromancy
06-25-2005, 08:42 PM
Aye, you are 300% (xD) correct. You are. But I have to complain about it. I have to kill 2 months until RPGM3 comes out. And at least it's physicing (I doubt that's how you spell it) me up for RPGM3.

Valkysas
06-25-2005, 10:34 PM
They think it "stinks" you can't upload your finished RPG to the 'net, but via the harddrive you can upload RPGM3 to decrease the waiting times.

They're retarded.

if they would have waited for the game to be 100% done to review it they would have got the manual too, which mentions us.

neobi
06-25-2005, 10:39 PM
They're retarded.

if they would have waited for the game to be 100% done to review it they would have got the manual too, which mentions us.


THE PAV IS IN THE MANUAL!?! AWESOME, I feel like I'm part of something special now...*teary eyed

Valkysas
06-25-2005, 10:43 PM
pavilion is in the manual. yup yup.

but not our URL.

for legal reasons, agetec is going to put the link as rpgmaker.agetec.com, which will just be a forwarding page to us. they have to do this in case somehow relations go bad with us, or the pavilion dies or changes it's URL or something like that, they can still be in control of where the official link leads.

Draygone
06-26-2005, 10:07 AM
The whole "you can't put the game on the net" deal will probably deter (I think?) people from getting it.

Dreamknight
06-26-2005, 10:58 AM
Oh wow, it really IS coming out August?


Excellent....

Valkysas
06-26-2005, 01:42 PM
exactly what I thought draygone, which is why I'm writing to PSM to put an update on that in their next issue.

Chuck
06-26-2005, 01:44 PM
What's that craziness that's currently at rpgmaker.agetec.com? Or is Agetec going to use it with www in front of it?

Valkysas
06-26-2005, 01:46 PM
agetec has no idea why some people's wedding site is at that URL.

The Final Rune
06-26-2005, 04:25 PM
That's hillarious! :lol I can't believe they picked a web address that already existed, or that some fools are actually using "rpgmaker.agetec.com" as their web address.

I mean come on, :skeptical what idiot thought "rpgmaker.agetec.com" would be a good address for all you need to know about Wedding Texas?

I swear, sometimes I'm afraid to call myself a Texan. :droplet

Valkysas
06-26-2005, 04:27 PM
well, thats not what happened at all.

see, "rpgmaker.agetec.com" is a subdomain of agetec. it's impossible for anyone to register an address like that.

it's a DNS problem, thats all.

The Final Rune
06-26-2005, 04:30 PM
Its still funny though. :lol

Necromancy
06-26-2005, 04:43 PM
My foot fell asleep.

Ah...let me think....

Brand new Dexdrive: $12 off Ebay

Keyboard for easy typing: $20 for a new one

RPGM3: $40

So I have to ask...how much is a max-drive/sharkdrive, and which one should I get for the full RPGM3 experience?

Valkysas
06-26-2005, 05:35 PM
a dex drive will only work with PS1 saves, and thus only RPG Maker 1.

Max Drive is the best file transfer device for the PS2, and it retails for 20-30 dollars on its own, but its hard to find like that now. its most easily available packed in with the action replay max evo, which is 40 dollars.

Necromancy
06-27-2005, 11:13 AM
Hmm...great. I have all these big items I need to buy. Not fair. I suppose i'll have to save up, buy RPGM3, then hopefully, oh so hopefully, get enough money to buy a Maxdrive. A keyboard is way too much to squeeze in there.

Rodak
06-27-2005, 01:12 PM
A keyboard is way too much to squeeze in there.
Well, any USB keyboard will do the job. If your 'puter uses one, just swap it back and forth.

They can be had very cheaply if you find a broken computer at a yard sale or electronics show.

I find them regularly for under $10 and sometimes $5. The MAX drive is the expensive part, but it will allow you to play others' RPGM2 & 3 games.

Peace.

Necromancy
06-27-2005, 01:39 PM
Ah...thanks a lot. I'm sure my parents would murder me if I asked to use the keyboard, but I have a way with words. I hope to get my hands on a Dexdrive ASAP, so I can play Jester's Hunt among others. I've been hearing a lot about RPGM games, and I finally want to play them. Jester's Hunt just happens to be one i've heard a LOT about. Dexdrives can run cheap...under 15$. That works for me.

Rodak
06-27-2005, 02:57 PM
I've been hearing a lot about RPGM games, and I finally want to play them.
Me too!

I just found a copy of RPGM1 at a used games shop and now need a dexdrive myself. I promise not to get in a "bidding war" with you on eBay as I usually just place one bid and if it sells to someone else, fine.

You'll know if it is me bidding by the overwhelmingly silly user name.

As for the parents, if they get upset just go to an electronics trade show. Old keyboards really are very inexpensive.

Peace.

jvrlopez
06-27-2005, 03:14 PM
Check for a dex drive with a Buy It Now on eBay if you are worried about bidding.

I swear I see them all the time with reasonable prices in the $12-$15 range...

Necromancy
06-27-2005, 05:52 PM
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000K4EI/qid=1112100854/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-7450618-7431855?v=glance&s=videogames&n=507846

That's what i'm trying to keep my eye on...Amazon.com. Right now New Dexdrives cost 16, before they were as low as 10 for a new copy. When a cheap one comes up on there, i'll buy it right-away. A bidding war wouldn't be too much fun. xO

Draygone
06-27-2005, 08:09 PM
Nah, they'll probably just keep getting more expensive as their rarity increases. Better get one while you still have a chance. $16 isn't really a whole lot.Jester's Hunt just happens to be one i've heard a LOT about.That's probably because half the time you heard it's creator advertising it oh-so-subtly.:p

lilwilddude
06-27-2005, 08:28 PM
then hopefully, oh so hopefully, get enough money to buy a Maxdrive

I'm sure it'll take a little while for someone to finish anything on RPG Maker 3.. Which would give you time to save up for a max drive..

Necromancy
06-27-2005, 08:37 PM
xD

Hey there. Jester's Hunt is one of the reasons i've wanted a Dexdrive. I've been through that site about it a lot. It supplies a lot of much-needed inspiration when i'm stuck on an RPG i'm working on.

Good job. Can't wait to play it.