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    Our rights keep slipping away...

    Get arrested at a protest? It's getting more difficult for peaceful activists to leave the U.S. when they want to.

    That's not the most disturbing part. What's even more disturbing is that the FBI is using tax dollars to keep track of peaceful dissenters. Not a new revelation by any means, but disturbing that the practice is not only continuing, but has been escalated.

    This database is also shared with other nations, and is an affront to national sovereignty.

    Since Yahoo usually deletes articles after a month or so, the whole thing is posted below:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20071..._us_cda_border

    U.S. peace activists test Canadian border restrictions

    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Wed Oct 3, 9:06 PM ET

    NIAGARA FALLS, N.Y. - U.S. peace activists Medea Benjamin and Ann Wright have had a tough time entering Canada lately because their names send up red flags in border agents' computers.

    Both women have been arrested in the United States protesting against the Iraq war, which has landed them in an international criminal database. When they visited Canada in August, they were told they would have to apply for "criminal rehabilitation" and pay $200 if they ever wanted to visit again. Neither applied.

    On Wednesday, Benjamin, co-founder of the anti-war group Code Pink, and Wright, a retired U.S. army colonel, walked into Canada at Niagara Falls to test whether they really would be denied entry because of their anti-war-related arrests.

    They were.

    Now they're asking why the names of those arrested during peaceful protests would be included in an FBI-maintained database meant to track fugitives, potential terrorists, missing persons and violent felons.

    "We are certainly no threat to the Canadian people," Benjamin said.

    The protesters believe the inclusion of activists' names in the National Crime Information Center database is a form of political intimidation of those opposed to U.S. administration policies.

    FBI spokesman Paul Moskal said while the FBI maintains the database, the data are supplied by arresting agencies and others.

    By relying on the database to screen visitors, Canada is participating in the administration's suppression of free speech, charged John Curr, director of the New York Civil Liberties Union in Buffalo.

    "The Canadians accepted wholesale once you're on the list, you don't get into Canada," Wright said shortly before walking across the Rainbow Bridge into Ontario.

    She and Benjamin spent 2½ hours in the customs inspection area before being sent back to the United States.

    Derek Mellon, a spokesman with the Canada Border Services Agency, said he was unable to comment on Wright and Benjamin specifically but noted all foreign visitors must meet longstanding admissibility requirements, such as having valid travel documents and a clean criminal record.

    "We welcome millions of American visitors every year," he said.

    Canada generally refuses entry to anyone who has been convicted of a criminal offence, regardless of the nature of it. Those with convictions, however, may apply to be rehabilitated, which involves filing paperwork and paying a processing fee ranging from $200 to $1,000.

    Mellon said that is not new.

    "The admissibility requirements have not changed," he said.

    Benjamin said she and Wright, who resigned as a senior diplomat at the U.S. Embassy in Mongolia in 2003, plan to protest at the Canadian Embassy in Washington on Thursday and ask the FBI to remove the protest charges from the NCIC database.

    If you want out of the U.S. at some point, get out while you still can.
    The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

    #2
    Re: Our rights keep slipping away...

    Hey, look on the bright side. At least we're still in the handbasket.
    I want that Mulan McNugget sauce, Morty!

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      #3
      Re: Our rights keep slipping away...

      I can't wait until I don't have any rights! It'll be so much easier to make decisions! n__n

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        #4
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        This is assuming they are peaceful protestors and not mob violence insighting protestors.


        If you want out of the U.S. at some point, get out while you still can.
        Or don't get arrested for protesting.
        The Cyclops having only one eye, needed to seek shelter from the harsh sun. The shadow cast by the spheres gave him temporary respite.

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          #5
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          better to be arrested for protesting than shot.

          This is assuming they are peaceful protestors and not mob violence insighting protestors.
          very true. how do we know they are actual peaceful protestors? their word?
          so we trust their word, just not the government's word. for all we know, they're assholes who throw **** at police officers during protests.
          Last edited by Valkysas; 10-05-2007, 03:21 PM.



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            #6
            Re: Our rights keep slipping away...

            They still arrest you after they shoot you. Unless they kill you but then you wouldn't be worried about getting into Canada.
            The Cyclops having only one eye, needed to seek shelter from the harsh sun. The shadow cast by the spheres gave him temporary respite.

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              #7
              Re: Our rights keep slipping away...

              I may not know for certain whether these two individuals were 'peaceful', but I do know with absolute certainty that peaceful protestors are arrested routinely and do wind up in that database.

              In fact, just 3 short years ago at the Republican National Convention, over a thousand demonstrators were detained and held in a warehouse by police, even those who did nothing wrong.

              The editor of 2600 magazine even documented his experience of being wrongfully arrested:

              http://www.2600.com/rnc2004/

              This is not an isolated case. I've seen similar incidents occur right here in St. Louis.


              I guess you could just waive your 1st amendment rights and not worry about it, eh?
              The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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                #8
                Re: Our rights keep slipping away...

                There's limits to our liberty. At least, I hope and pray that there are cause these liberal freaks go too far.
                I want that Mulan McNugget sauce, Morty!

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                  #9
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                  DONT TAZE ME BRO!

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                    #10
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                    The best part was when he got tased

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                      #11
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                      Hell, if they wanted to come to Canada, all they have to do is become terrorists.. I mean, good ol' Canada is full of them, masquerading as "political refugee's", and "war refugees". I don't know about the East and West coasts, but Ontario sure as hell has them. When they get here they automatically receive housing, welfare and health care.

                      But the kicker is is that half of them are political extremists, and some float down your way and cause some ***t! A lot of known terrorists living in the U.S., snuck in from Canada.

                      I don't blame the states for increased border patrol in light of certain events, but it surprises me that Canada would not allow them access when they give it to so many other dangerous people. (I'm not saying all refugees are like this.)

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                        #12
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                        Will someone please reanimate the founding fathers? Even their soulless corpses would tell anyone this is wrong and the complete opposite of what this country was founded on.

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                          #13
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                          Originally posted by The Toecutter View Post


                          If you want out of the U.S. at some point, get out while you still can.
                          You're right. This article proves we'll be slaves by the end of the week.
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                            #14
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                            Free yourselves from the Megacorps. Flee to the wasteland.
                            Last edited by Dusk Raven; 10-05-2007, 10:00 PM.

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                              #15
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                              I don't think the U.S. is in danger of becoming the world's next dictatorial super power. I'm inclined to believe that if these people got arrested, they probably were doing something wrong.

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