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    IRS defeated in court: complete media blackout

    Full story in the link below:

    http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org...2007-09-30.htm

    Media Blackout:
    161 Federal Tax Charges, 0 Convictions

    IRS Suffers Staggering Defeat


    Tax Questions Raised Regarding
    Gold and Silver Coins Used to Pay Wages

    Around noon on Monday, September 17th, a Las Vegas federal jury returned its verdict refusing to convict nine defendants of any of the 161 federal tax crimes they had been charged with. The charges included income tax evasion, willful failure to file and conspiracy to evade taxes.

    The four-month trial centered around the family businesses of Robert Kahre who paid numerous workers for their labor with circulating gold and silver U.S. coins, and did not report the wages. The payments took place over several years, allegedly totaling at least $114 million dollars.

    On September 20, 2007, three days after the federal trial's dramatic conclusion, the Las Vegas Review Journal, reportedly under a degree of public pressure, ran its first (and last) story about the outcome of the trial. To this day, with exception of the single article by the Review Journal, no major media entity has published a news story regarding the outcome of this important federal criminal tax case.

    ...

    After almost four months of testimony and three and a half days of deliberation, the jury did not convict any of the defendants of any of the 161 crimes alleged. Although some defendants were acquitted of multiple counts, and several were acquitted completely, others may have to stand for a retrial if the Government brings charges a second time.

    The Review Journal reported the jury foreman claimed DOJ prosecutors admitted they were "shocked" by the outcome.

    In March 2007, the primary defendant, Bob Kahre, filed a federal civil rights lawsuit against the prosecutor and IRS agents who had conducted what he alleges to be an unlawful search and seizure raid. In 2005, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals refused to overturn a previous District Court ruling holding that the federal prosecutor is not entitled to absolute immunity for the unlawful raid.

    ...

    Want to avoid illegal income taxes without having to worry about men with guns throwing you in jail? Get paid in gold and silver.
    The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

    #2
    Re: IRS defeated in court: complete media blackout

    Score one for the felons!

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      #3
      Re: IRS defeated in court: complete media blackout

      If you read the article, you'd know the felons lost out for a change.
      The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder." ~ Thomas Jefferson

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        #4
        Re: IRS defeated in court: complete media blackout

        They aren't felons, he filed his lawsuit in civil court.

        The blackout is weird but I'm still not sure what this case is about so I can't feel outraged or anything. Has anyone submitted this information to any media outlets? Surely someone other than one website would pick up on it. I guess you should write a op-ed piece about it(well maybe not you) but someone who'll keep it sucinct and send it to some of the major newspapers and the ap and what not.
        The Cyclops having only one eye, needed to seek shelter from the harsh sun. The shadow cast by the spheres gave him temporary respite.

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          #5
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          EDIT:

          Changed my mind I am not getting into this conversation.
          Last edited by Red Dragon; 10-05-2007, 11:40 AM.

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            #6
            Re: IRS defeated in court: complete media blackout

            Red Dragon, look up "extortion".
            Quote of the moment - "When you cut down a tree, don't stand near it."

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              #7
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              i dont really get what happened or why it didnt work out.

              Thank you Ωbright for the sig fix!
              Card Three is released! You can find it here!

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                #8
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                The IRS is a private company. It's not a government agency. Private companies will always try to turn a profit. Therefore they can't be trusted with American citizen's taxes.

                I think this article is good news for the average American. The media blackout says as much - they didn't want people to know you could do something like this and get away with it.
                ...and that's why.

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                  #9
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                  i reread everything and i think i get it now. so the value stamped on the coin is its "worth" regardless of the value held by collectors and as the material to make it in the first place. that is pretty crafty, maybe i should ask to be paid in gold coins. how the hell did these people live anyway, it isnt like you can pay for your groceries in silver and gold coins?

                  Thank you Ωbright for the sig fix!
                  Card Three is released! You can find it here!

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                    #10
                    Re: IRS defeated in court: complete media blackout

                    Exchange what you're gonna need at any given time?
                    "Mindless killing doesn't do a lot for me anymore." - Sampson

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                      #11
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                      at first, I thought this topic was called "IRC defeated in court", and I thought, "yes. finally."

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                        #12
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                        Originally posted by josh View Post
                        at first, I thought this topic was called "IRC defeated in court", and I thought, "yes. finally."
                        me toooooo

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                          #13
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                          Originally posted by josh View Post
                          at first, I thought this topic was called "IRC defeated in court", and I thought, "yes. finally."
                          Oddly enough, so did I.

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                            Originally posted by Denethor View Post
                            The IRS is a private company. It's not a government agency. Private companies will always try to turn a profit. Therefore they can't be trusted with American citizen's taxes.

                            I think this article is good news for the average American. The media blackout says as much - they didn't want people to know you could do something like this and get away with it.

                            The IRS is not a private company. It's a federal agency under its parent agency, the Department of the Treasury.

                            Even if it were, there are plenty of examples of private companies that don't operate with profit as their driving motive.

                            Finally, the average American isn't paid in gold and silver, and as weak as the dollar is, isn't likely to start receiving their wages in hard currency. I'd say this article and verdict will have nil impact on the "average" worker.
                            So you're a fish out of water...
                            Keep swimming.
                            What else can you do?

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                              #15
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                              Originally posted by josh View Post
                              at first, I thought this topic was called "IRC defeated in court", and I thought, "yes. finally."
                              Originally posted by John Mora View Post
                              me toooooo
                              Originally posted by Red Dragon View Post
                              Oddly enough, so did I.


                              What would I have been defeated in court on?
                              The Cyclops having only one eye, needed to seek shelter from the harsh sun. The shadow cast by the spheres gave him temporary respite.

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