New Game

[Lausen]

While I don't have much time to type this nor will I be Able to add to it regularly for my computer is broken and I'm useing my sisters. I just wanted to see if this is a good idea for a game. What better place to get that answer?

The world the game takes place in was once very high tech, but a chain of natural disasters destroyed most of the cities. And left the planet in bad shape. Very few survived, but one nation seemed to be untouched. They build a great wall around there boarders to keep out the outsiders. The outsiders are the people that lived the storms, but do not live in Nahara.

The outsiders have scavaged to survive for over 400 years, while Nahara continued to florish. They are seen as barbarians. The leaders of Nahara constructed a military power far advanced compared to the outsiders and have created a monopoly. They have no intentions on making the planet better for all mankind. Just themselves.

Because of this the outsiders have become bitter towards Nahara. They have turned toward religion to guid them. Every 15 years they pick an oracle in whitch they believe helps get in the gods favor. The latest Oracle invisioned a great discovery that would let the outsiders fight back. A discovery that will change the way people live for good or worse. That is to be decided.

Anyway you start out a cadet in Nahara's military. You are taking the final exams to be a honorary knight. From there you are thrown into chaos. The main character slowly learns of how Nahara has become powerful and starts to second guess what he fights for.

I don't have much more time so please tell me what you think even though I realize it is very breef. Hopefully I will have more time in the next few days to tell more about the story and characters. I just wanted to get the main point across for now.

Oh... and sorry about spelling.

[Duel]

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Meh, it's alright.

[Dusk Raven]

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Sounds good to me.

By the way, how is the last game you posted about going?

[JPS]

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probably like mine, fallen to new, improved ideas Unfortunately you can only do that so much until your credibility goes down and youre forced to pump something out as so not to come to be known as a fake around here

Anyways, the game idea sounds very good, the only question I have is what is preventing the outsiders from technologically advancing over the course of over 400 years? In less then 400 years we went from blunt knives that could barely kill one person to nuclear weapons that could take out an entire civilization.

[Dusk Raven]

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Maybe they didn't need it. Or maybe they kinda figured, you know, technology isn't always a good thing, considering what happened to them (at least they might blame technology rather then themselves)

Blunt knives? 400 years ago we had guns. 600 years ago we had cannons.

[JPS]

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The actual individual inventor of gun powder could have been a Chinese alchemist known as Sun-Sy-Miao. It wasn't until the year 904, that there was documentation of an approximate recipe for gun powder by a man from China named Siui-Tung.(1103 years ago)

in the year 1259, the city of Melilla defended itself against attack with a cannon.(748 years ago)

Evidence has shown that the first guns began appearing around the year 1280(727 years ago)

You win this round....kinda, you were closer then me


I dont know what made me say that, I watch the history channel all the time I should have known that, but hey, Im not a big gun guy

[Karr Lord of Chaos]

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you could argue the opposite as far as technology. humanity has existed for millions of years yet the technology we will gain this year alone is probably greater then the first 10's of millions of years worth of technology. what was the defining point that made technology advance so fast?

queen victoria kept society from advancing for her reign in power, even as great as rome was they still refused many high level technologies based upon societal beliefs (a steam engine design was declined because that was the job of the slaves).

with that said you could say the barriers to new technology is society itself, hindered by lack of resources, lack of free time (too focused on immediate survival), and the most damaging one of all a deficiency in dreams and imagination.

all of these could be reasons why a post apocalyptic world would halt technological growth, not to mention a fear probably created by the first catastrophe. depending on how bad the disaster was you could even say that technology may of been forgotten as people would be scattered and knowledge would be lost.

look at the fall of rome. we slipped far back from our technologically inclined state and entered the dark ages. look how long it took us to recover from that. its very believable that in his story that so little technological progress would be made. of course he may need to give his story a boost so we all know how horrific and tragic the end was so we can come to that conclusion.

[Dusk Raven]

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with that said you could say the barriers to new technology is ... lack of free time (too focused on immediate survival)

Then again, hunter-gatherers (some, at least) had lots of free time. But if we were suddenly pitched back to the jungle from whence we came, we wouldn't be so lucky.

and the most damaging one of all a deficiency in dreams and imagination.

But do such deficiencies exist?

[Karr Lord of Chaos]

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hunter gathers did not have tons of "free time." they had to work longer and harder which required more energy. its only when we gained ways of supporting large groups of people that we began to have a surplus in free time which resulted in faster technological growth.

its impossible to say that primitive societies had little imagination since few records remain beyond broken bits of poetry and cave paintings. i would say that having access to a small amount of information would severely limit what you could dream on. today we have mountains of literature, access to piles of history records, and access to every society on the globe that propels our dreams forward. i cant help but think having so little of this would mean they their dreams where limited and couple with all the other factors they probably would just not act on them since they couldnt really do much about it. but ive moved far into the lines of conjecture.

[Dusk Raven]

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hunter gathers did not have tons of "free time." they had to work longer and harder which required more energy. its only when we gained ways of supporting large groups of people that we began to have a surplus in free time which resulted in faster technological growth.

Blaarg.

Marshall Sahlins presented a paper entitled, "Notes on the Original Affluent Society," in which he challenged the popular view of hunter-gatherers living lives "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short," as Thomas Hobbes had put it in 1651. According to Sahlins, ethnographic data indicated that hunter-gatherers worked far fewer hours and enjoyed more leisure than typical members of industrial society, and they still ate well. Their "affluence" came from the idea that they are satisfied with very little in the material sense. This, he said, constituted a Zen economy.

[Ivan Rosenguard]

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It's kind of funny how much modern society is largely ignorant of just how much of a hellhole modern society is.

[Karr Lord of Chaos]

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perhaps i used a poor example? the main theme is that many factors play together to stunt technological growth. how can you explain the seaming lack of technology back then compared to now? i am not entirely convinced they where free to invent and used dreams for anything other then stories.

[Ryner]

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Jesus Christ just comment on the game and keep walking.

My thoughts: Nothing really special about the story. Typical evil empire controls the world and lives in awesomeness while everyone else is poor. Been done before plenty of times, and nothing especially strikes as interesting.

[JPS]

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Its like a science convention in here

Technology I believe started advancing at such a huge rate from miniaturization, once we learned how to create complex circuit structures within something the size of a fingernail, thats when everything took off

[Karr Lord of Chaos]

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so its all thanks to bill gates? i dont like that thought. lets atribute it to the people who came up with the idea to begin with, whoever they are.

science is a huge boon to technology, which maybe one important factor in our increased technology. the more we actually know about the world, the greater detail we can dream and the larger the scope we can dream on. without a firm and large base your stuck to hammering out the basics first - limiting technology you can develop since you need to invent all the steps before rather then having them ready for you to utilize.

micro circuitry is swell. that certainly pushed us forward a bunch of years.