RPG Maker 2 and 3 Comparison Video

[Ceciroth]

Hi. For those of you who have worked with one game and not the other, or for those of you new to the entire business, I created this video to help you see what each of the titles is capable of.

The video is 35 minutes in length, but considering that you might spend 500 hours on a game, it might be worth your while to watch the whole thing.

Enjoy!

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...51796&hl=en-CA

[Red Dragon]

Re: RPG Maker 2 and 3 Comparison Video

Why didn't you just post this in the RPG Maker General Section? You didn't need to make 2 seperate topics.

Anyhow.
You can rotate the camera using the R3 (i think... maybe L3) stick in RPGM3.

I wish you showed more RPGM3's UI, that's the real meat of the program right there.

[Ceciroth]

Re: RPG Maker 2 and 3 Comparison Video

It wasn't my intention to show the games' UIs... rather I was trying to show people what the games were capable of OUTPUTTING.... and the reason I didn't post it in General is because not all that many people are posting in General, at least to my knowledge..

[Red Dragon]

Re: RPG Maker 2 and 3 Comparison Video

People see the General as much as they do the individual workshops.

Oh and because of that video I decided to buy RPGM2.

...So Jorb well done!

[Ceciroth]

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Thanks! THat's what I'd hoped would happen... btw, did you render that bunny yourself?

[Red Dragon]

Re: RPG Maker 2 and 3 Comparison Video

Yes I did. Wanted to put a pancake on his head, decided against it.

Anyhow, back to the video.

I like how you made the town in RPGM3, you really showed alot of detail in it.

[Crimson Knight]

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I loved that video. It really showed a lot of what's capable with both RPG Makers, not all of it of course but enough in my opinion. I also liked how you made words up as you went along too.

Your game seems to be designed very well too. And I think your attempts to be sort of neutral when it came to how good the two games were, makes this a more professional review of the games than probably most out there that are from professionals, that contain a lot of bias(even though I admit, this video does too).

I also believe that this topic shouldn't be part of a bunch of duplicates in multiple forums, so I'll move it to RPG Maker General and sticky it(and delete the other one), just so other members could see it whenever they wanted, instead of searching for it or "tagging" the topic.

[irate giraffe]

Re: RPG Maker 2 and 3 Comparison Video

Wow. Biased a bit. Good job making a video, but, man, you could've been a bit more objective. You focused on #3's limitations and barely touched on it's good points. And with #2 you did the exact opposite. When you talked about one of three's bad points, you would say "it's bad and ... well ... it's bad," and then for #2 you would say "here's something bad, but it actually doesn't matter and isn't that bad." I apologize if I sound rude, but that was pure propaganda. And I don't think you're 'apology' at the end made up for it.

I did enjoy learning more about 2. I bought it a while ago and haven't even put it in yet (I wanna wait until I finish the game I am making on 3). I think you did a good job showing off #2, just a bad job putting down #3. If I had the capability, I'd make a rebutall video, showing how #3 can kick some ass.

p.s. Just real quick: In #3, if you make battles as events, you can have the music be whatever you want, and make your own 'encounter rate'. You can toggle with the stats more to get rid of misses. And you should have at least shown one cool field in #3.

[Crimson Knight]

Re: RPG Maker 2 and 3 Comparison Video

Wow. Biased a bit. Good job making a video, but, man, you could've been a bit more objective. You focused on #3's limitations and barely touched on it's good points. And with #2 you did the exact opposite. When you talked about one of three's bad points, you would say "it's bad and ... well ... it's bad," and then for #2 you would say "here's something bad, but it actually doesn't matter and isn't that bad." I apologize if I sound rude, but that was pure propaganda. And I don't think you're 'apology' at the end made up for it.

You sound just as biased to me. I carefully watched the video, and while Cec here did announce his bias for RPG Maker 2 and didn't spend too much time on 3, his assessment of RPG Maker 3 was decent. 3, compared to 2, has very few good points and many more bad points he actually left out. I think he didn't describe 3's ease of use or the leeway of creation freedon too well, but the time comparison he made between the 2 games speaks for itself. As for RPG Maker 2's bad points, remember, the video speaks too, he just stated his opinion.

p.s. Just real quick: In #3, if you make battles as events, you can have the music be whatever you want, and make your own 'encounter rate'. You can toggle with the stats more to get rid of misses. And you should have at least shown one cool field in #3.

Remember, event space is more limited in RPG Maker 3. Wasting it on monster battles isn't a good idea if you want to make the dungeons look good. And don't get me started about the stat system(good, but somewhat untested).

Since you believe Ceciroth here isn't too good being a spokesperson for RPG Maker 3, perhaps you'd like to give us a demonstration(in text or video of course), preferably one that doesn't bring up 3's bad points(because those don't make the good ones look too good)? I've found Vonwert and Rodak to be the only ones capable of bringing out RPG Maker 3's "hidden potential", and from what I've seen from them, it's great but not too much. So I'd love to see what you've got for us.

[Vonwert]

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In my new game, I am showcasing all the tricks that people have found or discovered in RPGM3.

So it would be a more complete picture of what RPGM3 can accomplish. But it is still a limited RPGMaker, and that is because it was design that way. It really isn't fair to compair the two.

[Crimson Knight]

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Well, what Ceciroth did was, give the viewer(more or less), a show of what both makers are capable of on a moderate level, and then lets you make your own decision about buying it or whatever. I think the hate going towards the video, was more for the fact that RPG Maker 3 wasn't given any more love than it deserved, while RPG Maker 2 had more room for that.

As far as how "good" they are, I do think it's unfair to compare the two. But facts are facts, and taking them too personally will make your hair fall out.

[Ov3rdose]

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Nice vid, I personally would like to work with RPG Maker 2, seems more of a challenge but gives more experience to make the others easier.

[irate giraffe]

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I apologize for the hate. The video just rubbed me the wrong way. I think that, on account of calling it a comparison video, a softer approach could have been taken. It was a very good introduction to #2, and I think if that's what it was called, I wouldn't have had such an averse reaction.

And I do agree that the games are almost too different to really compare. I have been enjoying #3 for a while now. I bought #2 but haven't even stuck it in yet. I wish I had time to. That intro video really made me want to get into #2, but I only have so much time. Maybe after I finish the game I am working on for #3.

[Libby]

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Not too bad at all. It's actually making me want to make a full intro vid for 3, since I am more baist for it's ease of use. I do want to play your game however, in a very bad way, but I don't have RM2 any more. Not faaaiiiirrr...

[Ceciroth]

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Wow... I'm glad my vid generated so much talk! I hope it creates more.

I just actually rewatched my film and I've got to agree that it is pretty one sided... I spent far more time bashing 3 and than I did actually speaking on its good points (and it does have them!), while I tended to dismiss 2's nastier bits in favour of its better features.

What I was going for with the video was a demonstration of what the end-user can expect from his/her game after they are all done... so, what will my game look like in the end?

I'm actually kind of inclined to make another video which discusses the two games' user interfaces... Perhaps I'd quickly go through the creation of an event to show the viewer how the games differ in their ease of use / Logic / Abilities, etc.